Israel: We Are At War

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Muse

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All of this just so Trump can stroke his own ego...
Who cares what it does to the USA?
One of Trump's mottoes is "think big." He's said this to his children. He couldn't resist using the biggest bombs (non-nuclear), the 30,000 pounders, 12 of them on Fordo.
 
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This is one way to get a smack. Stop with the video flood. Especially with no commentary at all. @igor_kavinski
It's all relevant to this thread. The video titles are self explanatory. No commentary required.

They are mostly shorts. No one's time is going to be wasted much. And you can ignore if you wish not to feel uncomfortable by listening to truth.
 

HomerJS

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Do you honestly think it would have made a difference? The only way that Ukraine could have got away with a defensive nuking of Russia would be if the entire West backed it up. The fact aside that we've done a shit job of backing up Ukraine in this timeline let alone that one, nuking will always be a highly controversial move. I doubt there's a single situation where most of the civilised world would respond with, "well, they did deserve it...".

IMO the only scenario where having nukes makes any sense is if you're the only country with them. That ship sailed a long time ago.
No country with nukes has ever been invaded. Iran sees in the region Israel, Pakistan, Russia, India with nukes and they aren’t being invaded. If you are Iran from their point of view why wouldn’t you want nukes?
 
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balloonshark

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How is it we have intelligence that Iran was close to having a nuclear weapon but we don't know how effective the strikes were?
 

Muse

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No country with nukes has ever been attacked. Iran sees in the region Israel, Pakistan, Russia, India with nukes and they aren’t being invaded. If you are Iran from their point of view why wouldn’t you want nukes?
Who's next?


 
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Wreckem

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How is it we have intelligence that Iran was close to having a nuclear weapon but we don't know how effective the strikes were?
Because

1. US intelligence agencies don’t have evidence to conclude Iran was close to having a nuke. Only Israel is saying that and they have been saying it for 25 years. They also said Iraq was close as well and we all know how they turned out.

2. Most likely we only did superficial damage to it what are actually target was.The only person who believes we destroyed it is Trump.

What we do know is while Iran is upset with the attack on its soil, it doesn’t seem to be to worried about damage.
 
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2. Most likely we only did superficial damage to it what are actually target was.The only person who believes we destroyed it is Trump.
How come no one is talking about what this has cost the tax payers? That attack must've a pricetag in the billions.
 

Greenman

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How come no one is talking about what this has cost the tax payers? That attack must've a pricetag in the billions.
The planes and bombs are paid for, the air force was just standing around doing nothing, I'd say the only real cost was the fuel and airframe wear and tear.
 
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