US and Israeli intelligence do a lot more than just "read", before they decide to fly a several hundred million dollar top secret mission around the world.
US and Israeli intelligence do a lot more than just "read", before they decide to fly a several hundred million dollar top secret mission around the world.Like @brycejones posted, the 300 ft necessary for the main corridors was public knowledge. Heck, here is an article from several days before the attack. https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/17/middleeast/iran-fordow-nuclear-site-latam-hnk-intl "Its main halls are an estimated 80 to 90 meters (around 262 to 295 feet) beneath the ground"
Or there is this even earlier article, that puts them up to 360 feet below ground. https://www.csis.org/analysis/three-things-will-determine-irans-nuclear-future-fordow-just-one-them "Fordow is believed to be buried 80–110 meters underground, near Qom, and was built to withstand airstrikes."
Here is an article from 3.5 years ago: https://apnews.com/article/europe-m...iran-nuclear-dd40e4a610c2f35aff25353bbcf3a91c "But burying the facility under some 80 meters (260 feet) of dirt and rock while not informing international inspectors as required only heightened Western concerns."
Basically, to answer your question, how do I have better info? For starters, I can read.
Then, according to my Persian coworkers, triple that depth for the deepest corridors. Take their comments with a grain of salt though, since that could very well be internal Iranian TV propaganda.
US and Israeli intelligence do a lot more than just "read", before they decide to fly a several hundred million dollar top secret mission around the world.
I doubt Iran knows yet.Yes they are unbelievably awesome at their jobs, it’s why the Israelis were blindsided by October 7th, and we found so many WMDs in Iraq in 2003. As just a couple of examples.
Earlier I posted a story from NPR that raises questions about how deep the MOP can actually penetrate rock like the site they were used at.
To be honest though it will be a long time before we definitively know one way or the other.
Exactly, they also listen to a man with no knowledge or evidence but he proclaims to know the truth.US and Israeli intelligence do a lot more than just "read", before they decide to fly a several hundred million dollar top secret mission around the world.
And heres one from today thats directly from the CIA, opposing your incorrect take and unofficial "leak".
Intel leaders say new intelligence shows Iran's nuclear sites could take "years" to rebuild
The CIA director says "credible intelligence" indicates Iran's nuclear program was "severely damaged."www.cbsnews.com
I think he's too young to remember the lead up to the Iraq war and how stellar US and Israeli intel were on that. Regardless of that, any intel services (most of all the Israelis) routinely use disinformation to influence events in line with the policies of the ruling govt at the time.You actually believe Trump's hand picked sycophants? lol, silly boy.
October 7th info was there. Netanyahu's declared policy of letting Hamas grow as competition for the PA (including funneling money), as well as Hubris, and his coalition that is more intent on occupying the West Bank led to Gaza being treated as an afterthought and it seeped into the Military ranks.Yes they are unbelievably awesome at their jobs, it’s why the Israelis were blindsided by October 7th, and we found so many WMDs in Iraq in 2003. As just a couple of examples.
Earlier I posted a story from NPR that raises questions about how deep the MOP can actually penetrate rock like the site they were used at.
To be honest though it will be a long time before we definitively know one way or the other.
If they do get nukes they wont be able to retaliate with BM since every launch could be a possible nuke...looks like they did a lot of damage with the conventional warheads though and there's not much that can stop the fast ones from getting through their protective 'shield'Not sure how determined the Iranians will be to get nuke capability, but one thing they will do is rebuild, re-stock and improve their MRBM systems. They've shown they can be a formidable deterrent on its own.
Photos show damage in Haifa and Tel Aviv in the latest Iranian missile barrage
TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Photos show the damage in Haifa and Tel Aviv in the latest Iranian missile barrage on Israel following US strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.apnews.com
Im 46, plenty old enough to remember Operation: Desert Storm.I think he's too young to remember the lead up to the Iraq war and how stellar US and Israeli intel were on that. Regardless of that, any intel services (most of all the Israelis) routinely use disinformation to influence events in line with the policies of the ruling govt at the time.
Iran’s nuclear facilities “suffered enormous damage” from the U.S. airstrikes Saturday, but more extensive evaluation is needed, the head of the United Nations’s nuclear watchdog said Thursday.
Probably a bad idea to believe the US government at this point. Doesn't mean you need to believe Iran instead but any rational and objective observer would know that neither is a credible source at this point.I believe the leaders of the CIA & IAEA over Khamenei and plebs here who actually want the US to fail in missions like this just because they hate Trump.
Im 46, plenty old enough to remember Operation: Desert Storm.
Probably a bad idea to believe the US government at this point. Doesn't mean you need to believe Iran instead but any rational and objective observer would know that neither is a credible source at this point.
I mean just the other day the DNI said there was no evidence Iran was building nukes only to have Trump flip out and then she changed her statement. That's an obvious indication that intelligence is being manipulated.
You need to read very carefullyAnd heres one from today thats directly from the CIA, opposing your incorrect take and unofficial "leak".
Intel leaders say new intelligence shows Iran's nuclear sites could take "years" to rebuild
The CIA director says "credible intelligence" indicates Iran's nuclear program was "severely damaged."www.cbsnews.com
The heads of two key American intelligence agencies issued statements Wednesday on what they said was "new" intelligence on the damage resulting from the recent U.S. strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, each noting the Iranian program was likely to have been set back by "years."
There could be lots of reasons they wouldn't admit if it wasn't, first and foremost that it would enrage their primary benefactor. The IAEA guy is clearly not speaking from any firsthand or even secondhand knowledge of the situation there.Its not just the US gov. Its also the Israelis and IAEA, as I pointed out. Israel probably has as many spies on Irans uranium enrichment activities as China has in the US. If it wasnt damaged, they wont continue to maintain that it was. They will call for more action.
Show of hands, who actually believes this statement?
Conservatives are so fucking weirdIm 46, plenty old enough to remember Operation: Desert Storm.
I believe the leaders of the CIA & IAEA over Khamenei and plebs here who actually want the US to fail in missions like this just because they hate Trump.