Israel: We Are At War

[Josh128]

Conservatives are so fucking weird

Liberals are so fucking seditious when they get excited that regimes like Khamenei's might just be doing better than the US and its allies would like it to be. Oh, I forgot, there are no liberals in this thread.

Iran hangs three more accused of spying as fears grow for Swede

Iran on Wednesday hanged three men convicted of spying for Israel after what activists decried as an unfair trial, bringing to six the number of people executed on such charges since the start of the war between the Islamic republic and Israel.The executions also bring to nine the number of...

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[brycejones]

Liberals are so fucking seditious when they get excited that regimes like Khamenei's might just be doing better than the US and its allies would like it to be. Oh, I forgot, there are no liberals in this thread.

Iran hangs three more accused of spying as fears grow for Swede

Iran on Wednesday hanged three men convicted of spying for Israel after what activists decried as an unfair trial, bringing to six the number of people executed on such charges since the start of the war between the Islamic republic and Israel.The executions also bring to nine the number of...

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Are the seditious liberals in the room with you now?

 

[fskimospy]

Liberals are so fucking seditious when they get excited that regimes like Khamenei's might just be doing better than the US and its allies would like it to be. Oh, I forgot, there are no liberals in this thread.

Iran hangs three more accused of spying as fears grow for Swede

Iran on Wednesday hanged three men convicted of spying for Israel after what activists decried as an unfair trial, bringing to six the number of people executed on such charges since the start of the war between the Islamic republic and Israel.The executions also bring to nine the number of...

www.yahoo.com

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I love how sacking the Capitol and attempting a coup isn't sedition to conservatives but thinking bombing Iran is dumb is.

In case there was any lingering doubt that the primary goal here is conservative identity politics, of course.

 

[UNCjigga]

Nobody here is rooting for Iran or Khameini dumbass—we’re pointing out that the Administration is full of liars and cannot be trusted with the truth. You don’t even understand the core argument because either you’re too naive or just too stupid.

Here’s the argument—the JCPOA was more effective than a tactical strike against Iran’s enrichment facilities. The JCPOA provided a real economic incentive for Iran *not* to pursue a nuclear weapon. Could Iran be trusted to hold their end? No—not indefinitely. But it provided breathing room for further negotiations and inspections that made it harder to hide any weapons grade enrichment.

Trump abandoning the JCPOA at Bibi’s request was probably one of the dumbest foreign policy moves in modern history. We gained absolutely NOTHING from walking away—it just made any other hostile regime reluctant to negotiate with us ever again in good faith. Now after Trump dangled a new deal in front of Iran while our ally bombed the shit out of them and finally dropping our own bombs, I fear we’ve accelerated the timeline for Iran acquiring nukes. Even if they cannot do homegrown enrichment , I fear they may eventually find a way to acquire the fuel needed from Pakistan or North Korea. Nobody wants this!!

Conservatives will always play up the seditious conspiracy straw man because they cannot fathom that liberals do not in fact hate America—we just expect America to be better.

 

[DZero]

Israel wanted to get rid of Khamenei... Trump wants that stupid prize to the point to tie Israel from doing the cleansing?

 

[Josh128]

Nobody here is rooting for Iran or Khameini dumbass—we’re pointing out that the Administration is full of liars and cannot be trusted with the truth. You don’t even understand the core argument because either you’re too naive or just too stupid.

Here’s the argument—the JCPOA was more effective than a tactical strike against Iran’s enrichment facilities. The JCPOA provided a real economic incentive for Iran *not* to pursue a nuclear weapon. Could Iran be trusted to hold their end? No—not indefinitely. But it provided breathing room for further negotiations and inspections that made it harder to hide any weapons grade enrichment.

Trump abandoning the JCPOA at Bibi’s request was probably one of the dumbest foreign policy moves in modern history. We gained absolutely NOTHING from walking away—it just made any other hostile regime reluctant to negotiate with us ever again in good faith. Now after Trump dangled a new deal in front of Iran while our ally bombed the shit out of them and finally dropping our own bombs, I fear we’ve accelerated the timeline for Iran acquiring nukes. Even if they cannot do homegrown enrichment , I fear they may eventually find a way to acquire the fuel needed from Pakistan or North Korea. Nobody wants this!!

Conservatives will always play up the seditious conspiracy straw man because they cannot fathom that liberals do not in fact hate America—we just expect America to be better.

Fuck you first for name calling. Second, we just provided a real non economic incentive for them to *not* to persue a nuclear weapon. Thats the step 1. Step 2 is to provide them a revised economic incentive *not* to persue a nuclear weapon.

Fuck you second for being disingenous. Its very apparent that many on this thread appear downright giddy at the thought that limited damage was done. To claim otherwise is to be a reality denier.

 

[Josh128]

Here is a video from the Pentagon with more details about the MOPs that were dropped, if anyone here is actually interested in actually learning what they are and can do. 6 of these were dropped on the Fordow facility.

MSN

 

[nickqt]

Imagine being stupid enough to believe anything the Trump administration claims when it uses extreme language instead of specific language.

If the Trump administration tells you the sky is blue, only a fucking moron would nod their head in agreement without first immediately going outside to see what color the sky actually is.

 

[amenx]

I think Israel is very disappointed with how their 12 day war with Iran went. They successfully got Trump to bomb the nuke facilities but instead of getting an extended all out war with Iran, the Iranians skillfully winded things down to an abrupt halt of hostilities. To the satisfaction of Trump, but to great frustration for Netanyahu where he sees Iran still standing and just as dangerous if not more to Israel.

 

[igor_kavinski]

the Iranians skillfully winded things down to an abrupt halt of hostilities.

Definitely dealt with the two conjoined morons (netantard and trump) in the more mature way.

netantard: everyone run to the shelters. missiles incoming coz I poked the hornet's nest!

trump: look at my big fat bombs!

 

[UNCjigga]

Fuck you first for name calling.

Ok?

Fuck you second for being disingenous. It’s very apparent that many on this thread appear downright giddy at the thought that limited damage was done. To claim otherwise is to be a reality denier.

No. The “giddiness”, if any, is limited to the hilarity of Trump claiming “FLAWLESS VICTORY” and then having your own contrary intelligence assessment leaked 48 hours later, and watching everyone in the Administration (POTUS, Press Secretary, Defenseless Secretary) go red in the face trying to defend the mission. It’s a fucking CLOWN SHOW.

I’m cool with any and all setbacks to Iran building a nuclear weapon—whether we set them back a few months or a few years. I’m a naturalized American, so I’m conditioned not to care about how much this mission cost us taxpayers in materiel and manpower, or what the replacement costs of those bombs will be. But I’m not cool with a weak POTUS being goaded into doing another head of state’s bidding, AGAIN.

 

[Amused]

Im 46, plenty old enough to remember Operation: Desert Storm.

Desert Storm was in 1991 and had nothing to do with the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It was a justified defense of Kuwait's sovereignty.

Operation Iraqi Freedom was 12 years later and based on bullshit claims of WMDs.

It's painfully obvious you don't remember shit.

 

[IronWing]

Fuck you first for name calling. Second, we just provided a real non economic incentive for them to *not* to persue a nuclear weapon. Thats the step 1. Step 2 is to provide them a revised economic incentive *not* to persue a nuclear weapon.

Fuck you second for being disingenous. Its very apparent that many on this thread appear downright giddy at the thought that limited damage was done. To claim otherwise is to be a reality denier.

Team Treason (Republicans) accusing anyone of sedition is hypocrisy on steroids. You joined the traitors so don’t expect Americans to assign any credibility to your statements.

 

[brycejones]

Here is a video from the Pentagon with more details about the MOPs that were dropped, if anyone here is actually interested in actually learning what they are and can do. 6 of these were dropped on the Fordow facility.

MSN

So was it 6, 12, or 14 dropped on Fordow? The administration has reported all 3 numbers.

 

[HomerJS]

Waiting for Trumpers to pivot back to the leak. Leaking which was excused when Pete Hegseth was the perp

Like I’ve said many times co services love crime and treason they the perps look like them

 

[iRONic]

Plebs…?!? TF is a pleb?

 

[UNCjigga]

Anyone else think it’s hilarious how MAGA can accelerate from 0 wars to Neocons in 2.5 seconds?? They’ve unlocked Full Plaid mode! Elon would be proud!

Edit: courtesy of kage69 in P&N thread:

 

[Heartbreaker]

So no, I won't take the word of massive liars based on nothing more than their words. It would be insane to do that. I mean - can you imagine a world where someone would believe something Donald Trump said? How stupid would they have to be?

Massive liars all around. They all get to claim victory.

Maybe we should be thankful they are all such massive liars, this enables them all to claim victory, so they can all de-escalate since they "won".

If they were all honest, someone would have to admit being on the short end and they would then need to escalate so they could "win".

Ignoring what all the liars said, I can't see this being a major setback for Iran's program. They have multiple baskets for their "eggs" and who know what was where. There was ZERO radiation reported detected anywhere...

 

[gothuevos]

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[kage69]

Have to put your own engine in it, Iranians run a special fuel in theirs I believe. Should just take it to the Ukrainian embassy and donate it. At the very least that's a decoy that takes up Yuri's time, causes him to use fuel and ammo.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I love how sacking the Capitol and attempting a coup isn't sedition to conservatives but thinking bombing Iran is dumb is.

In case there was any lingering doubt that the primary goal here is conservative identity politics, of course.

Before you break out that broad brush, only radicals stormed the capital, not "conservatives". The majority of people who voted, even conservatives accepted the results like I did.

A future conservative like the Honorable George W. Bush will re-take the helm again one day and there will be much rejoicing and merry making throughout the land.

Bush reached out to both sides of the isle and we all held hands as Americans.

 

[Amused]

Before you break out that broad brush, only radicals stormed the capital, not "conservatives". The majority of people who voted, even conservatives accepted the results like I did.

A future conservative like the Honorable George W. Bush will re-take the helm again one day and there will be much rejoicing and merry making throughout the land.

Bush reached out to both sides of the isle and we all held hands as Americans.

Oh my...

 

[pauldun170]

Lol if Trump is freeing up Iranian cash

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

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Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social)

TACO Trump has been brought into the game to replace UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! Trump.

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Where's the money coming from? Anyone? Anyone at all?

 

[fskimospy]

Before you break out that broad brush, only radicals stormed the capital, not "conservatives". The majority of people who voted, even conservatives accepted the results like I did.

A future conservative like the Honorable George W. Bush will re-take the helm again one day and there will be much rejoicing and merry making throughout the land.

Bush reached out to both sides of the isle and we all held hands as Americans.

Uhm close to like half of self identified conservatives think the 2020 election was stolen.