Israel: We Are At War

[FelixDeCat]

Uhm close to like half of self identified conservatives think the 2020 election was stolen.

I saw a random liberal one day advocate for cannibalism, therefore over half of liberals desire to eat humans? 😱

Meanwhile conservatives abhor cannibalism and 99.999% of them did not storm the capital and accept the outcome of elections.

 

[K1052]

meanwhile the IDF is just doing whatever it wants in Gaza including massacring civilians looking for food

https://archive.is/W0Dgq

IDF officers and soldiers told Haaretz they were ordered to fire at unarmed crowds near food distribution sites in Gaza, even when no threat was present. Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed, prompting the military prosecution to call for a review into possible war crimes

 

[fskimospy]

I saw a random liberal one day advocate for cannibalism, therefore over half of liberals desire to eat humans? 😱

Meanwhile conservatives abhor cannibalism and 99.999% of them did not storm the capital and accept the outcome of elections.

My mistake - the percentage is more like 70%.

CNN Poll: Percentage of Republicans who think Biden’s 2020 win was illegitimate ticks back up near 70% | CNN Politics

The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July.

amp.cnn.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

I saw a random liberal one day advocate for cannibalism, therefore over half of liberals desire to eat humans? 😱

Meanwhile conservatives abhor cannibalism and 99.999% of them did not storm the capital and accept the outcome of elections.

You gotta be trolling with this post. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously?

 

[igor_kavinski]

meanwhile the IDF is just doing whatever it wants in Gaza including massacring civilians looking for food

https://archive.is/W0Dgq

Funny how they think there's a "possibility" of war crimes.

Humanity needs to cease to exist. Period.

Like every human's heart needs to stop tomorrow. This Earth deserves better.

 

[Pens1566]

You gotta be trolling with this post. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously?

They're trolling with every post. And no one takes them seriously. I don't think they care either.

 

[DZero]

They're trolling with every post. And no one takes them seriously. I don't think they care either.

For me they are lolcow material, the Trumpist and Pro Russians, which are essentially the same crap

 

[FelixDeCat]

They're trolling with every post. And no one takes them seriously. I don't think they care either.

Im demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. His claims are absurd. Nobody believes liberals and their hysterical nonsense. Conservatives support the electoral process and 99.999% did not storm the Capital.

Liberal polls said Hillary would win in 2016.

Now we are to believe those same pollsters again.

 

[Pens1566]

Im demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. His claims are absurd. Nobody believes liberals and their hysterical nonsense. Conservatives support the electoral process and 99.999% did not storm the Capital.

Liberal polls said Hillary would win in 2016.

Now we are to believe those same pollsters again.

Yeah, you're not doing nearly what it is you think you're doing. And everyone knows it.

 

[KMFJD]

meanwhile the IDF is just doing whatever it wants in Gaza including massacring civilians looking for food

https://archive.is/W0Dgq

was just coming to post that, absolutly horrifying , these fuckers need to see a 2nd nuremburg style trial
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"It's a killing field," one soldier said. "Where I was stationed, between one and five people were killed every day. They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars. Then, once the center opens, the shooting stops, and they know they can approach. Our form of communication is gunfire."

The soldier added, "We open fire early in the morning if someone tries to get in line from a few hundred meters away, and sometimes we just charge at them from close range. But there's no danger to the forces." According to him, "I'm not aware of a single instance of return fire. There's no enemy, no weapons." He also said the activity in his area of service is referred to as Operation Salted Fish – the name of the Israeli version of the children's game "Red light, green light".
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meanwhile in tel aviv , the warhawks can't stop themselves

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938599600769654971

 

[UNCjigga]

So how many years until we have evidence that Mossad & Likud Party buried intelligence on Hamas’ plans for October 7 and the attack was always meant to be a pretext to allow the IDF to do exactly what they’ve been doing?

 

[igor_kavinski]

So how many years until we have evidence that Mossad & Likud Party buried intelligence on Hamas’ plans for October 7 and the attack was always meant to be a pretext to allow the IDF to do exactly what they’ve been doing?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67958260

Knowing israelis, they would prefer to bury the evidence, along with any bodies, dead or alive.

 

[you2]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67958260

Knowing israelis, they would prefer to bury the evidence, along with any bodies, dead or alive.

One thing is known; it took the Israeli an unusual long time to respond when the ladies radio for helped and sealed themselves in their bunkers which even at the time seemed very strange (to myself).

 

[igor_kavinski]

Yeah. Almost like they sat back and let the worst happen so they would have enough justification for their later atrocities. And Hamas training on a mock tank??? How the hell did that escape their notice???

It seems maybe most of their population is in the same tyrannical grip that trump now has on Americans. Why else would they let their own sacrifice them for the safety of the whole nation (their policy of killing their own rather than letting them be taken hostage)?

The civil unrest and increased crimes in the US are just more excuses for trump to do what he wants and he started it all. Most dumb sheep don't have the brains or intellect to realize that.

 

[HomerJS]

Im demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. His claims are absurd. Nobody believes liberals and their hysterical nonsense. Conservatives support the electoral process and 99.999% did not storm the Capital.

Liberal polls said Hillary would win in 2016.

Now we are to believe those same pollsters again.

To be accurate up to 4% of the people attending Trump's speech stormed the capital.

It's dishonest to count all the people who weren't even in the city.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Hmmm

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/politics/bunker-buster-bomb-isfahan-iran

 

[KMFJD]

Hmmm

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/politics/bunker-buster-bomb-isfahan-iran

i'm gonna need a @megatron_ron confirmation before i believe that lol (lmao)

 

[Roger Wilco]

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i'm gonna need a @megatron_ron confirmation before i believe that lol (lmao)

Aliens worked closely with Kufu to bury their WMDs under the great pyramid. I have no doubt they did similar things with Cyrus.

 

[pmv]

Before you break out that broad brush, only radicals stormed the capital, not "conservatives". The majority of people who voted, even conservatives accepted the results like I did.

A future conservative like the Honorable George W. Bush will re-take the helm again one day and there will be much rejoicing and merry making throughout the land.

Bush reached out to both sides of the isle and we all held hands as Americans.

My sense is that Conservatives tend to create radicals.

Look at all the Conservative Muslims, who in themselves are neither radical nor violent, but merely very, very, socially-conservative (disapproving of the direction of Western society, insisting on conservative norms of dress and behaviour for themselves, but with absolutely no inclination to blow anyone up or to violently enforce their values on anyone - at least not anyone outside their own families). They have a tendency to produce offspring, or influence converts, who decide it's necessary to violently remodel society in order to make it compatible with the conservative values they were indoctrinated with.
Then those non-violent conservatives act baffled when their offspring commit acts of terrorism or run off to join ISIS (where did they get those ideas from? They must have been 'radicalised' by someone!)

Or look at how neo-liberalism came out of the Conservative movement (notwithstanding the name, liberalism and conservatism are, in any case, in no sense opposites or mutually-exclusive). Deciding to remodel the economic structures of the world to force it to work the way Conservative ideology had come to believe that it should. Or the neo-Conservative movement, a similar attempt to violently remodel the world in line with beliefs that grew out of Conservatism.

Or just look at the mostly Conservative, conventionally-religious, backgrounds of most of the leading Nazis.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Then those non-violent conservatives act baffled when their offspring commit acts of terrorism or run off to join ISIS (where did they get those ideas from? They must have been 'radicalised' by someone!)

A big problem with conservative religious people is that they make their kids feel like absolute and total shit. They probably do this on purpose so the kids aspire to be better humans by behaving better. But more often than not, it backfires as the kids or young adults are lured to the dark side by crazy clerics who seduce them with promises of Paradise if they take up arms and fight infidels. And they do this with an underlying desire to make their parents proud. Living a strict religious life of doing good deeds sounds too slow, boring and painful to them so they want to do something that makes the front page news.

 

[Jaskalas]

I love how sacking the Capitol and attempting a coup isn't sedition to conservatives but thinking bombing Iran is dumb is.

In case there was any lingering doubt that the primary goal here is conservative identity politics, of course.

No, it's fascism pure and simple.
Their purpose is to reenact Nazism.

 

[FelixDeCat]

My sense is that Conservatives tend to create radicals.

Look at all the Conservative Muslims, who in themselves are neither radical nor violent, but merely very, very, socially-conservative (disapproving of the direction of Western society, insisting on conservative norms of dress and behaviour for themselves, but with absolutely no inclination to blow anyone up or to violently enforce their values on anyone - at least not anyone outside their own families). They have a tendency to produce offspring, or influence converts, who decide it's necessary to violently remodel society in order to make it compatible with the conservative values they were indoctrinated with.
Then those non-violent conservatives act baffled when their offspring commit acts of terrorism or run off to join ISIS (where did they get those ideas from? They must have been 'radicalised' by someone!)

Or look at how neo-liberalism came out of the Conservative movement (notwithstanding the name, liberalism and conservatism are, in any case, in no sense opposites or mutually-exclusive). Deciding to remodel the economic structures of the world to force it to work the way Conservative ideology had come to believe that it should. Or the neo-Conservative movement, a similar attempt to violently remodel the world in line with beliefs that grew out of Conservatism.

Or just look at the mostly Conservative, conventionally-religious, backgrounds of most of the leading Nazis.

So I guess you prefer weak leaders, weak government, policy that throws its hands up "there is nothing we can do"!!!!

OMG ... we cant stop the migrant boat gangs that are bringing in migrants because of this law and that law.. our hands are tied!! We are weak hearted leaders and will not do anything for fear of backlash from influencers on social media and late night satirical shows!

Starmer has just revealed he has absolutely no idea how to stop the boats​

MSN

There are your weak leaders.

If I were were the UK PM, I would say fuck that and send the Royal Navy to intercept the boats, deport the illegal entry attempts, and jail the boat captains. The migrant boat would then be scuttled.

 

[pmv]

If I were to be pretentious about it, I'd say that Conservatism is the soil in which radicalism is nurtured.

Maybe it requires a further element, to really trigger it, though. A disconnect between being raised with excessively conservative values and the real-world circumstances the person trying to live up to those values finds themselves in. That's what seems to drive some Muslim youth in the West a bit crazy. And probably quite a few Christians also.

So I guess you prefer weak leaders, weak government, policy that throws its hands up "there is nothing we can do"!!!!

OMG ... we cant stop the migrant boat gangs that are bringing in migrants because of this law and that law.. our hands are tied!! We are weak hearted leaders and will not do anything for fear of backlash from influencers on social media and late night satirical shows!

Starmer has just revealed he has absolutely no idea how to stop the boats​

MSN

There are your weak leaders.

If I were were the UK PM, I would say fuck that and send the Royal Navy to intercept the boats, deport the illegal entry attempts, and jail the boat captains. The migrant boat would then be scuttled.

Starmer's a right-wing power-worshipper. I hate the guy. He's in the wrong Party - he's a Tory. The Labour party has always been somewhat right-wing (my parents were expelled from it before I was born, for being left-wing), but I think it's beyond saving now, as it's been entirely captured by Starmer and his mob of affluent technocrat mercenaries-for-the-rich. Conservatives, all of them.

His primary characteristic is a tendency to attack the vulnerable (such as refugees, but also the disabled or sick) while embarrassingly fawning over the rich and powerful (like his bowing before Trump or his acceptance of free gifts from various billionaires). I have some theories as to why he's like that, in terms of his personal psychology. I suspect he's as much driven by his personal demons as is Trump.

I don't care that much about 'stopping the boats' (other than the fact it's an unsafe way to reach the country and people have, as a consequence, drowned - they make up a small proportion of immigration numbers, and are largely driven by the disruption caused by UK and US foreign adventures, past and still ongoing, and are a consequence of the deliberate choice to not provide safe routes to claim asylum here, Brexit being a part of the problem).

Immigration in general is neither a good nor bad thing, it's just a fact of life that needs to be managed and somehow coped with, a consequence of history, particularly the history of imperialism, and the global problems it has caused. (It's doubtless going to increase hugely if climate change isn't addressed.)

The obsession with 'stop the boats' is mostly a massive distraction orchestrated by our vile right-wing media that is largely concerned with doing whatever it believes will further the interests of the plutocrats who own it and tell it what to say (plus, maybe, sadly, British people are just a bit racist, like everyone - I'm generally pretty disenchanted with human nature, which is why I think we probably don't have much of a future, as a species).

Starmer is, of course, desperate to keep those plutocrats happy, because, as you correctly say, he's a weak leader (much like Trump).

[Edit] I mean, I'm sure I'd be a terrible leader, because I'm not sure what I believe about anything. I greatly dislike both liberals and conservatives, and, while I don't hate the left (note to Americans - liberals are not the left), I don't really agree with them either, I think they are just honestly mistaken.

Mostly I just think we are all doomed because human nature is so fundamentally flawed, and I doubt that would work as a pitch to the electorate.

But then, I'm not competing frantically to get the job, as Starmer did, nor expecting the huge paycheque (essentially, for life, given all the perks and consequent benefits it entails) that goes with it.

 

[mikeymikec]

Another day goes by and FDC continues to display his wilful ignorance of the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant.

I just wonder what it is like to be a former right winger who has faithfully spouted the BS propaganda of the right wing only to discover that right wing parties have absolutely no interest in stopping illegal immigration. The impotent fury at the moment of realisation that one has been played for a chump for decades.

 

[pmv]

Im demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. His claims are absurd. Nobody believes liberals and their hysterical nonsense. Conservatives support the electoral process and 99.999% did not storm the Capital.

And your response to the point that polls show the overwhelming majority of conservatives say they believe the election was stolen?