The Elite has 512GB. At equivalent RAM/SSD it looks like Elite is $200 more.$1000 for X Plus Surface 13 7th Ed Laptop
$1400 for X Elite Surface 13 7th Ed Laptop
Both are 16GB RAM, 256GB storage.
Branding seems to be X Plus C10 & X Elite C12.
I think Oryon will take a non trivial market share very soon. Impressive that we can pre order on day 1 of release. So many laptops already available from all major OEM. I wish AMD would do something similar. Availability of Hawk Point still sucks several months after release. Qualcomm is going after Intel's laptop market share for sure. That is why we saw the "news" from Intel as well.Quite a lot of design wins for essentially a first gen product:
Ouch that's the very slow one.Snapdragon® X Elite X1E-78-100 (up to 3.4 GHz, 12 cores)
I assume rather lax fan curve from MS and a ton more watts in esxcks elite 1t.How is the Air M3 cooler in single thread than a fanned 15” Surface?
Oryon is going to be presented at this year's Hot Chips.
I won't be attending this year - I have less than zero interest in how AI-heavy the conference has become since I last went - but I'll be interested to see what comes out of that presentation.
Oh heck yeah. Technical details. This will basically put QC above Apple on divulging details most likely, which is cool because we’ll get some more official technical insight into what I suspect are similar structures in the CPU. Very exciting to see!Oryon is going to be presented at this year's Hot Chips.
I won't be attending this year - I have less than zero interest in how AI-heavy the conference has become since I last went - but I'll be interested to see what comes out of that presentation.
Yeah exactly. I said nearly the same thing.Maybe Ian will do some in depth coverage this year. Interestingly, this may also give some extra insight on Apple Silicon as well. It would be great if they go into the huge caches and how the reorder buffer actually works.
Isn’t it obvious? The X Elite is not as efficient as the M3 in ST.This is funny…
How is the Air M3 cooler in single thread than a fanned 15” Surface?
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yeah Hawk Point is crap. For laptops around the same price range I’d take an X Plus over Hawk point. Will be much more efficient and nearly the same ST, just with AMD using much more power to get there.I think Oryon will take a non trivial market share very soon. Impressive that we can pre order on day 1 of release. So many laptops already available from all major OEM. I wish AMD would do something similar. Availability of Hawk Point still sucks several months after release. Qualcomm is going after Intel's laptop market share for sure. That is why we saw the "news" from Intel as well.
see, Purwa competes with KRK1, not ughhh, HPT.For laptops around the same price range I’d take an X Plus over Hawk point. Will be much more efficient and nearly the same ST, just with AMD using much more power to get there.
loool this is such good Spec bait. But the current X Plus is pretty close to what Hawk Point or MTL does on GB6 in practice (AMD needs all the watts and GHz they can on Hawk).see, Purwa competes with KRK1, not ughhh, HPT.
Plus Purwa 1t is like 2022-tier, not really "nearly the same ST". gross.
Look man I’ll be happy to hand AMD a dub if they can build a part with good battery life! They’re just kinda lazy about it. Kraken is still exciting!Wish it had a modem, might've been useful for chromebooks.
ugghhh. Not really?But the current X Plus is pretty close to what Hawk Point or MTL does on GB6 in practice
you don't have to tell me that.Purwa is a separate die btw. They haven’t released that yet. X1P-64-100 — the current X Plus — is just the X Elite binned down to 3.4GHz with fewer cores.
Battery life isn't worth much when your 1t perf is netbook-tier.Look man I’ll be happy to hand AMD a dub if they can build a part with good battery life! They’re just kinda lazy about it
That's just a poverty X1c basically.Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x 14 Gen:
- 70Wh battery
- Excellent, bright 14" OLED
- 1.28kg
- Finally a phone level frontal a1080p webcam
- Fanless? (Or a really tiny ome)
- Starting From $1199
Doesn’t seem like you knew tbqh.ugghhh/
you don't have to tell me that.
I know QC roadmap just fine.
Hawk Point (Phoenix) in real laptops without absurd cooling does like 2400-2600. 3.4GHz X Plus does 2425 or so. It’s fine.Battery life isn't worth much when your 1t perf is netbook-tier.
That's just a poverty X1c basically.
LNL one will be coming so you're kinda getting what you're looking for?
It's just meh.Doesn’t seem like you knew tbqh.
Yeah but that's also at lower watts.Hawk Point (Phoenix) in real laptops without absurd cooling does like 2400-2600
this guy LNL's.Man Arm is so awesome, thank god for our benevolent overlords at Qualcomm. AMD shafted us on battery life for so long — they always held back.
Ooo Zen 6. Exciting stuff.It's just meh.
Maybe Glymur will be cool, but H1'26 is le medusa era.
I’ve seen AMD and QC’s curves and it ain’t pretty for the former. Kraken you may have a valid point though. We’ll see!Yeah but that's also at lower watts.
You joke, but even though I’m rooting for QC and other Arm vendors (besides Apple) I might just buy LNL lol. So yeah.this guy LNL's.
Yeah fancypants packaging going mainstream from people who actually would put it to a good use.Exciting stuff.
the cheapo ideapad (5? with 8840U) I tortured was aight.I’ve seen AMD and QC’s curves and it ain’t pretty for the former
Yeah LNL X1c seems like the T&L to get this refresh.You joke, but even though I’m rooting for QC and other Arm vendors (besides Apple) I might just buy LNL lol. So yeah.
Ya. We’ll see how that goes. I’m still hazy on what implications it has for monolithic 15-45W parts or if those are gone.Yeah fancypants packaging going mainstream from people who actually would put it to a good use.
Tbf, I think it’s inferior but I agree it’s tolerable. It’s probably the best cheapo part right now and for the future by a mile.the cheapo ideapad (5? with 8840U) I tortured was aight.
Ya. Stx Halo LP Z5 is exciting. LP cores but done the right way. Should make Stx Halo battery life actually usable to a degree.Yeah LNL X1c seems like the T&L to get this refresh.
I'll be buying stx-halo anyway for SCIENCE! and Anno sesh on the go.
USRs are good and cheap and idle stuff will be offloaded to the LP ghetto. It'll be fine.I’m still hazy on what implications it has for monolithic 15-45W parts or if those are gone.
Nah the cheapo champion is the 2+4 KRK chop.It’s probably the best cheapo part right now and for the future by a mile.
oh it's very-very-very usable, since it's not the server uncore lmao.Should make Stx Halo battery life actually usable to a degree.