Yes and no.
Reading between the lines I think that they are very competitive on 1T perf and at good power.
The fact that they didn't specify which laptop SoC's they were comparing against with nT makes me think that they may have been SoC's with majority Intel E/mont cores - which is a valid comparison, but it also makes me think that they don't want to compare to certain AMD configurations (Dragon Range) at similar TDP, plus we have Strix Point coming up next year which isn't exactly going to be a slouch either.
I may be wrong, but the lack of transparency being shown here is out of place with the rest of their claims given this is a first impression they are trying to give with a brand new platform launch (as Elite X is effectively rebooting that segment for them).
Yep .Most exciting CPU launch since the M1. Really looking forward to seeing the Nuvia core get benchmarked.
I think all are performance cores but they won't be same configuration, some will be low clocked for efficiency, same like Zen 4 and 4C cores.This chip has 50% better performance than an M2 in multi-threaded tasks, according to the slide.
Didn't they mean M2 Pro/Max?
Because if their chip scores 3227 in Geekbench single-core and have 12 performance cores, I would expect it to be much more than 50% faster than an M2, which has only 4 performance core scoring ~2800 Geekbench points each.
I think all are performance cores but they won't be same configuration, some will be low clocked for efficiency, same like Zen 4 and 4C cores.
Idk. Look at the competition it's going to be launching against.Most exciting CPU launch since the M1. Really looking forward to seeing the Nuvia core get benchmarked.
its totally going to be a 3-4 way fight , right now my question is whats really intel got.Idk. Look at the competition it's going to be launching against.
No, this chip as 50% better performance than "Competitor" in this slide.This chip has 50% better performance than an M2 in multi-threaded tasks, according to the slide.
Didn't they mean M2 Pro/Max?
Because if their chip scores 3227 in Geekbench single-core and have 12 performance cores, I would expect it to be much more than 50% faster than an M2, which has only 4 performance core scoring ~2800 Geekbench points each.
EDIT: I see the M2 Pro/Max are only about 50% faster than the M2 in Geekbench 6, which appears to be the tool Qualcomm use for their comparisons. Which makes their new chip about as fast as an M2 Pro/Max in multicore tasks, at 30% less power consumption than an M2 Max. Not bad, but we'll see what Apple has to offer with the M3.
The slide I'm referring to specifically says "M2".No, this chip as 50% better performance than "Competitor" in this slide.
Who knows - not as much memory bandwidth as M2 Pro. Being in-between the two wouldn't be surprising.This chip has 50% better performance than an M2 in multi-threaded tasks, according to the slide.
Didn't they mean M2 Pro/Max?
Because if their chip scores 3227 in Geekbench single-core and have 12 performance cores, I would expect it to be much more than 50% faster than an M2, which has only 4 performance core scoring ~2800 Geekbench points each.
Who knows - not as much memory bandwidth as M2 Pro. Being in-between the two wouldn't be surprising.
It is very clever design. I can see why Apple does efficient cores tho because the M3 has to fit in a 11" Inch iPad Pro.What I am surprised is the amount of CPU claimed by Qualcomm, ie. 12 HP cores vs rumored 8P+4E. Yet CPU cores are divided by 3 clusters of quadcore and only two clusters of CPU able turbo boost up to 4.3GHz. That's mean the last cluster of quadcore might be getting lesser power? As mentioned by AT:
"but it’s a safe assumption that each cluster is on its own power rail, so that unneeded clusters can be powered down when only a handful of cores are called for."
It is possible that Qualcomm might completely disable one main cluster of quadcore CPU, thus lower the power to compete with M3 which most likely still maintain 4P+4E configuration. Pretty clever CPU design, instead of two different dies, they just design one die for 2 product categories. I am curious how big the die size would be?
They did compare their chip to Apple on the live stream. It has 50% more performance in multicore compared to M2.View attachment 87750
Ahhh, ok so it was on the live stream. But now it's gone from the press deck? This is stupid, I don't know what to make of this conference now.
Either way we know the M2 at "peak performance" is really, really bad performance per watt comparison. M2 max is only impressive in mobile efficiency, and not designed at all for peak clock efficiency. What a waste of a comparison, you can see how much they tried to minimize it by putting the asterisks in smaller font.
I don't think there's a deliberate lack of transparency here.
Dayum that single-core performance is goood.They did compare their chip to Apple on the live stream. It has 50% more performance in multicore compared to M2.View attachment 87750