We have to be aware that the events leading up the bigger event are just as important as the bigger event itself. When Russia was blowing up Chechnya I was not happy, for instance. And in this war Russia has to try better to avoid civilian damage. Also, I am always calling for peace talks to be held rather than continuation of war. The counter argument is that Russia should let go of all territory gained and that is where things fall apart. You mean that the Russian territory gained after fighting not only Ukraine and all of NATO should be given back? From a moral point of view this *can* make sense in some situations but not from a logical point of view.