The official consequences caused by the overturning of Roe thread

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HomerJS

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Be on the alert. Republicans will try to pivot on abortion by advocating for a 15 week ban citing polls 1 in 3 people approve of abortions in the third trimester. However they frame the question as if women are having abortions in the third trimester just because they change their mind.

Just a reminder <1% of abortions happen in the third trimester. I cannot recall any case where a woman just changed her mind at 8 months 3 weeks and finds a doctor willing to perform that abortion. That occurrence is close to or zero.

Here is how righties are trying to frame the issue.
Defenders of legal abortion, in politics and the news media, do not like talking about third-trimester abortions. That’s natural because, as everyone who has had a baby knows, in the third trimester of pregnancy, the not-yet-born baby looks just like a baby, acts like a baby, and is viable outside the womb.

For that reason, abortion defenders don’t like admitting that Roe v. Wadeestablished, in effect, a constitutional right to abortion in the third trimester — as long as the abortionist said the abortion was needed for the mother’s health, which late-term abortionists will say about any pregnancy.

In other words, they claim doctors will lie just to perform an abortion. Think that has any grain of truth?
Note the publication pushing this narrative.
 
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dainthomas

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Be on the alert. Republicans will try to pivot on abortion by advocating for a 15 week ban citing polls 1 in 3 people approve of abortions in the third trimester. However they frame the question as if women are having abortions in the third trimester just because they change their mind.

Just a reminder <1% of abortions happen in the third trimester. I cannot recall any case where a woman just changed her mind at 8 months 3 weeks and finds a doctor willing to perform that abortion. That occurrence is close to or zero.

Here is how righties are trying to frame the issue.


In other words, they claim doctors will lie just to perform an abortion. Think that has any grain of truth?
Note the publication pushing this narrative.

By the way, there's no such thing as a third trimester abortion. If necessary, at any point after 22-23 weeks a premature baby is delivered and cared for appropriately.
 

hal2kilo

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By the way, there's no such thing as a third trimester abortion. If necessary, at any point after 22-23 weeks a premature baby is delivered and cared for appropriately.
One would never know this if they just listened to overwhelming noise, from the usual suspects that it's done on a requested and casual basis. Like ordering a Filet O Fish sandwich at Mickey D's.
 

HomerJS

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Dems need to explain all this over and over until it sticks. Meanwhile people hear the Fox noise because they are good at propaganda.

This is an example of fighting. Set the narrative before the Republicans. Keep telling the stories of women with problematic pregnancies and risks to their health over and over and over. Beat them to the punch.
 

DarthKyrie

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Dems need to explain all this over and over until it sticks. Meanwhile people hear the Fox noise because they are good at propaganda.

This is an example of fighting. Set the narrative before the Republicans. Keep telling the stories of women with problematic pregnancies and risks to their health over and over and over. Beat them to the punch.
Most of them wouldn't give 2 shits until it happens to someone they know and even then I tend to doubt if they would care.
 

sportage

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I have a new twist on abortion rights that further exposes the hypocrisy of the pro-life Christian evangelist.
Hear me out.

And so, we have these pro lifers who want to force women to have babies, right? And I would bet that most women who actually seek abortions are either not married, or are married but pregnant from another man, or are financially unable to take care of a child. So here you have the most likely reasons a woman would seek an abortion.
Because... most married women within a stable marriage plan to have their baby and want to have their baby. They are married and it is a planned pregnancy by both husband and wife. These women do not get abortions.

Also, pro-lifers are weighing heavily on the Bible, the scriptures, for their reasonings to ban abortion.
BUT HOLD IT.... WAIT JUST A DARN SECOND...
"The Bible" also talks about babies that are born "out of wedlock" to single mothers, and "the Bible" speaks about children born to women who screw around behind their husbands back.
What does the Bible actually say about this, you pro-lifer freaks?

Lets just find out...
Deuteronomy 23:2
“No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord.


Did you hear that you Christian evangelist bible thumping scripture loving pro-lifers? YOU are actually assisting, encouraging, dictating that more BASTARDS be brought into the world. The bastard children that biblical scripture does not take so kindly to. The same bastard children for whom scripture says will be denied entry into the assembly of the Lord for TEN (count them) TEN GENERATIONS.

One might say... WHO CARES?
Well, those freaking bible thumping Christian evangelist scripture loving pro-lifers should darn well care because to do what these self anointed Christian evangelist bible thumping scripture loving pro-lifers are doing and are legislating thru abortion bans goes against their very bible thumping Christian beliefs. The Bible specifically says not to create bastard children yet these pro-lifers are encouraging, forcing, and creating bastard children thru legislation.

A note for those evangelist pro-lifers out there.... you can not PICK AND CHOOSE what to believe and what to simply ignore when it comes to biblical scripture. To do any different is to expose yourself as the hypocrite you are.
Those freaking bible thumping Christian evangelist scripture loving pro-lifers can either ACT CHRISTIAN by following biblical scripture WORD FOR WORD or.... be cursed for disobeying biblical scripture. Cursed for acting the false prophets that they are.

Many red states have passed laws called "heart-beat" laws. Where an abortion is banned when a heartbeat is detected in a pregnant woman. Well if that woman is single and unmarried or married but pregnant with another mans child, that is setting the stage for the bastard child.

Hebrews 12:8
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

(Deuteronomy 23:2)
No one born out of wedlock (children whose parents are not married) . . . may be included among the Lord's people

(Zechariah 9:6)
A mixed race (children born out of wedlock) shall settle in Ashdod . . .

(Hebrews 12:8)
If you are not punished (or corrected, like a parents toward their offspring) . . . it means you are not real children, but bastards.


I am not trying to make a big bible thing. I'm not trying to push the Bible. I only bring this up NOT to judge anyone else and not to call out names to anyone else nor to cause hate, I only bring this up to prove the hypocrisy of Christian pro-lifers who choose to use the Bible to justify their insistence for controlling a woman's body. And not just any woman, but every woman.

No where in biblical scripture does it say after any bible passage, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. YOU DECIDE. IT'S UP TO YOU.
And yet, this is exactly what these pro-lifer hypocrites have done.

So what should we say to the efforts of those Christian Pro-lifers? What should we say to those self anointed Christian pro-lifers and their legislation?
YOU BASTARDS!!!!
 
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MtnMan

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esquared

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Woman denied medication to alleviate debilitating pain for a single reason. That reason? She is of child bearing age.

That is the only reason she was denied medication to alleviate debilitating cluster headaches.

WTF?
Hypothetical fetus???
Suspend his medical license.
 

Indus

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Woman denied medication to alleviate debilitating pain for a single reason. That reason? She is of child bearing age.

That is the only reason she was denied medication to alleviate debilitating cluster headaches.


What the actual fuck?

That's in New York!

Burn him at the stake.. and lets enjoy our religious freedom!
 

ch33zw1z

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HomerJS

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WTF?
Hypothetical fetus???
Suspend his medical license.
Wow! Hypothetical. I guess that will be another justification for banning birth control.

Remember Clarence Thomas says he wants to revisit that right. I thought justices were supposed to uphold the Constitution not use the bench for their agenda. Signed, Capt. Obvious
 
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We shall see, imo it doesn’t appear to be mobilizing Women that much.
Maybe I will be wrong.
 

UNCjigga

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Not a problem. I have it on good authority that the bros attending land grant A&T schools in the Midwest and South prefer to diddle the sheep anyway.
 
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