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Trump loses his bid to kill gag order.
So much this!
It's been hard for me to articulate that very same thing. Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Thank you!
To throw out the verdict over the immunity case is farcical. Falsifying your private business records as candidate Trump has nothing to do with "official acts". Though, I wouldn't put it past the partisan supreme court to make up whatever justifications they want.First shoe about to drop. Obviously orange monkey immediately filed suit to claim immunity on certain parts of the evidence. Prosecution has replied, they have no issue delaying sentencing to discuss this matter. Up to the judge though.
I think the argument they will make was that the jury considered evidence it wasn't allowed to consider (Trump's conduct while in office continuing the payments). I think the case is easily strong enough to survive without that evidence though.To throw out the verdict over the immunity case is farcical. Falsifying your private business records as candidate Trump has nothing to do with "official acts". Though, I wouldn't put it past the partisan supreme court to make up whatever justifications they want.
To throw out the verdict over the immunity case is farcical. Falsifying your private business records as candidate Trump has nothing to do with "official acts". Though, I wouldn't put it past the partisan supreme court to make up whatever justifications they want.
Clean up on aisle 5Sentencing delayed to 9/18, "if still necessary."
We're never touching this guy.
Clean up on aisle 5
Well that’s about as solid a sign that Trump is screwed as we are ever going to get! Lol.Sentencing delayed to 9/18, "if still necessary."
We're never touching this guy. Again, our lack of imagination is why we keep ending up surprised/disappointed.
God damnit Phil now there is a mess in aisle 3Ironically that might be our jobs in the camps/reeducation centers!
What could happen between now and the that would make it unnecessary?Well that’s about as solid a sign that Trump is screwed as we are ever going to get! Lol.
The fact that a president has so much immunity that they are immune from criminal act prior to becoming president should scare the shit out of you.Clean up on aisle 5
What could happen between now and the that would make it unnecessary?
As much as I despise that ruling I don't think it's going to work out that way. We'll know soon.The fact that a president has so much immunity that they are immune from criminal act prior to becoming president should scare the shit out of you.
Trump has appealed to have the conviction reversed and evidence thrown out based on his grand-slam in the Trump court decision - as he now enjoys complete and unconditional immunity for any acts remotely related to presidential activities while he was in the White House, which includes the period when all of the acts charged in New York occurred (all of the falsified business records and payments by Trump occurred while he was in office).What could happen between now and the that would make it unnecessary?
As much as I despise that ruling I don't think it's going to work out that way. We'll know soon.
your explanation is greatly appreciated!Trump has appealed to have the conviction reversed and evidence thrown out based on his grand-slam in the Trump court decision - as he now enjoys complete and unconditional immunity for any acts remotely related to presidential activities while he was in the White House, which includes the period when all of the acts charged in New York occurred (all of the falsified business records and payments by Trump occurred while he was in office).
More specifically, the Trump ruling states that one may not question his motives for actions taken while president - and the motive that the payments were in furtherance of election fraud was a prominent claim by the prosecution, including in closing arguments.
The main hurdle will be whether Trump can get over the extremely low bar set by the Supreme Court to claim that this has a possibility of falling somewhere close to official acts of the President as opposed to the as yet undefined microscopic or possibly non-existent space left for "unofficial" acts by the president that he could still be prosecuted for. (As one specific example, any conversations with presidential advisors are a protected official act, no matter the topic, even if it was how to best get money from foreigners into Trump's businesses or how to complete a coup - those discussions are now completely protected and may not be considered criminal nor may such evidence ever be used or referenced in any criminal trial).
The only reason the conviction may stand is that Trump personally signed the checks - if he had directed anyone in the executive office to do so instead, that action would be protected activity that could no longer be criminally charged.
Of course they are, more likely already did. And the courts will find that falsifying business records is a normal official presidential act.Hehe YT lawyer talking head. He’s betting the orange monkey lawyers going to claim cheques signed while in the Oval Office will be an official act.
Ironically that might be our jobs in the camps/reeducation centers!
I’m not sure how Trump company checks made out to cohen for retainer classifies as official duty. I’m sure the Supreme Court can come up with a reason though.