Of course they can pull it off, did you not read the thread? Modders already added support for the others. This is the exact same scenario as the one this thread was started over. Hence everyone's stance on the topic should have been consistent. But that isn't the case so far, and it's no mystery why.I'm a big Xess stan. If it were up to me that'd be the #1 priority upscaler since Xess DP4A works on all modern GPUs and is the closest to DLSS in image quality. I'd prefer it if it had DLSS, Xess, TSR & FSR.
If they can't pull that off then DLSS + TSR is an okay solution, definitely better than exclusively offering TSR or FSR.
I only bumped this to point out the it's good for me, not for thee hypocrisy. Anti consumer is anti consumer. When your argument is it's okay because mines the best! You are part of the problem. It's part of how we ended up in this terrible state of the GPU market. Rewarding anti consumer behavior. Blowing any bad moves or issues by the competitors out of proportion.I've only used DLSS in one game - and that's because I needed to to keep within my card's RAM limit with decent quality (at least the 4070 Ti Super finally has the RAM it should have released with).
I don't see the mental gymnastics, it's not an apples/apples comparison. If the *only* upscaler was DLSS that'd be pretty crappy and I'd get the point you're making. They're launched the game with 2 upscalers though - one that's vendor locked (DLSS) and then a second one that has wide ranging support (TSR). That's an objectively better situation than what Starfield, Jedi Survivor, RE4 & Callisto Protocol had available at launch.1.Millions of GTX and Intel mobile users also have to rely on FSR and XeSS for upscaling.
2. It's as easy as checking a box according to the irate DLSS users that posted here.
3. It's good to see the bias and mental gymnastics on full display. Excluding other upscalers is every bit as anti consumer as when it's done to Nvidia.
I only want to reply to this because I am an edge use case, see system sig.I only bumped this to point out the it's good for me, not for thee hypocrisy. Anti consumer is anti consumer. When your argument is it's okay because mines the best! You are part of the problem. It's part of how we ended up in this terrible state of the GPU market. Rewarding anti consumer behavior. Blowing any bad moves or issues by the competitors out of proportion.
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That seems about right hahaI only bumped this to point out the it's good for me, not for thee hypocrisy. Anti consumer is anti consumer. When your argument is it's okay because mines the best! You are part of the problem. It's part of how we ended up in this terrible state of the GPU market. Rewarding anti consumer behavior. Blowing any bad moves or issues by the competitors out of proportion.
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You ain't wrong. I just can't embody the same level of outrage as certain NV fans over a game not having support for FSR. I do agree with @H433x0n that, at least for now, the best upscalar tech to target appears to be XeSS since it has better quality than FSR and (presumably) works on any vendor's dGPUs. DLSS really doesn't seem like a standout feature anymore, and FSR is not worth using until it can deal with its quality problems.1.Millions of GTX and Intel mobile users also have to rely on FSR and XeSS for upscaling.
2. It's as easy as checking a box according to the irate DLSS users that posted here.
3. It's good to see the bias and mental gymnastics on full display. Excluding other upscalers is every bit as anti consumer as when it's done to Nvidia.
You were one of the most vocal ones crying here about foul play when Starfield was supporting only FSR.I don't see the mental gymnastics, it's not an apples/apples comparison. If the *only* upscaler was DLSS that'd be pretty crappy and I'd get the point you're making. They're launched the game with 2 upscalers though - one that's vendor locked (DLSS) and then a second one that has wide ranging support (TSR). That's an objectively better situation than what Starfield, Jedi Survivor, RE4 & Callisto Protocol had available at launch.
But...but...but, a few pages back we were told all upscalers are the same and work with simple copy & paste code, no real effort needed. So there should be no reason a game ever ships without all three, amirite?If the *only* upscaler was DLSS that'd be pretty crappy and I'd get the point you're making.
I think they should have included Xess & FSR.You were one of the most vocal ones crying here about foul play when Starfield was supporting only FSR.
Now that XeSS and FSR is missing in PALWORLD that's OK according to you because there is still TSR so no foul play happened.
If they already planned TSR, then there was no real reason to also use DLSS, which is vendor locked. Unless some foul play happened beyond the scenes like It did with Starfield's developers and AMD, which you believe in.
P.S. I agree with @DAPUNISHER
It isn't?The point I’m making is that it is not analogous to Starfield.
It’d be analogous to Starfield if Palworld was an Nvidia sponsored title that launched supporting DLSS exclusively. That’s why it was so controversial at the time.It isn't?
edit: the irony of this is that so many people have turned on Bethesda for Starfield being bad in other ways that the noise surrounding DLSS has all but died out except maybe on a few tech forums/X accounts. Palworld, on the other hand . . .
Both AMD and Intel need to do a better job astroturfing the hell out of social media at this point. They don't have the userbase to do it for them.
It’d be analogous to Starfield if Palworld was an Nvidia sponsored title that launched supporting DLSS exclusively. That’s why it was so controversial at the time.
It's a dead horse at this point.Yet again, the tech media fell for the salacious story, the theory with circumstantial evidence instead of the obvious option that AMD/Bethesda did a sponsorship deal to sell hardware and get copies of Starfield out there to help sales of that game. Which like many Bethesda games in the past is not all that it pretends to be. Good ol marketing hype to sell products.
To be fair both AMD & Bethesda were asked about it and neither gave an "acceptable" answer, they could have said what you said but their lack of answer just poured fuel onto that fire. Starfield was one big rub pull after another but DLSS became a very obvious canary for people to find down the mineshaft.Yet again, the tech media fell for the salacious story, the theory with circumstantial evidence instead of the obvious option that AMD/Bethesda did a sponsorship deal to sell hardware and get copies of Starfield out there to help sales of that game. Which like many Bethesda games in the past is not all that it pretends to be. Good ol marketing hype to sell products.
LOL that's not being fair at all. Being fair is acknowledging that IHVs have sponsored games for decades to promote their technologies. And that furthermore, doing so excludes the competitors technologies in almost every case. But that doesn't fit the narrative being promoted for dubious reasons.To be fair both AMD & Bethesda were asked about it and neither gave an "acceptable" answer, they could have said what you said but their lack of answer just poured fuel onto that fire. Starfield was one big rub pull after another but DLSS became a very obvious canary for people to find down the mineshaft.
Isn't it obvious why there is no screaming? The game is quite lighter compared to the likes of Starfield or Jedi Survivor.Yeah...so PALWORLD is a massive hit. There is no official FSR or XeSS support. Where is the internet mob screaming for blood over it? Did I miss it? I mean here we are 24 pages deep about DLSS getting left out of games.
Give my rotten regards to your pal, JensenI am going to the 8GB not enough thread, to see how Deliver us Mars at maxed 1440p+RT is not enough for 8GB cards and how it impacted the 13 people that played it.
Forum posters upset I bought a 7900xtx over an RTX 4090Anyone with the slightest clue knows what all of this manufactured hub bub was really about.
It’d be analogous to Starfield if Palworld was an Nvidia sponsored title that launched supporting DLSS exclusively. That’s why it was so controversial at the time.