Discussion Should MLID be considered a legitimate source

dr1337 · Apr 5, 2024

Yeah really you can't rationalize it, its one thing to dislike MLID, its another to make him a target of a hate campaign. Just like how its one thing to come to these forums and start acting like your speculation is a leak and to say that you know people on the inside, but its another to start calling people out and such.

People lied to a journalist they already knew was a sleeze, called him out, and are now acting like they're heros or something. There is no epic win in there, there are no lulz, this is just sad. Being so bored that picking on a bottom feeder gets your ego off isn't a good place for someone to be. This isn't even real drama.

Again I don't even like the guy, but you are in a wonderland to think a leaker isn't going to report leaks even if they might be bad.

In fact he just gained leagues of new information knowing what sources he can and can't trust. All you guys did was give MLID more publicity and made him stronger...

All thanks to completely manufactured drama that was given to him on a shiny golden plate.

coercitiv · Apr 5, 2024

Mahboi said:
Simple: he's open to discussion. I've tried talking with tech nerds many times, it's a REDACTED labyrinth of autism. MLID isn't even a particularly good interviewer, he rambles and tends to talk over his guests, but he talks games, servers, chips, performance, market, strategies, products, development, etc.
Most people that are truly competent at something do not understand this, but the hack's talent is that he fakes being competent well enough while taking in knowledge and opinions from everyone around him. This makes the hack a very good conversation center, someone who will listen to you, get interested, or at least feign interest, in many subjects. It makes him a great hub of information. Trust me, I'm a hack. I don't know a thing about semiconductors but I just listen left and right and learn.

His interviews were already discussed on the GPU forum favorably, some us us consider the interview format a possible way for him to get out of the impossible situation of always having a leak available for his core audience. Constantly having juicy leaks for all the upcoming products is his current business model. MLID lying to his audience or to himself is an economical certainty. That does not preclude him from building a decent show with a different format, he has skills for it.

HurleyBird · Apr 5, 2024

Mahboi said:
You may hate MLID for being a fake, but the fact that he is shallow/fake is also why people will talk to him rather than someone ultra-competent and incredibly difficult to bring to an open discussion. I see tons of very different people at Broken Silicon, and every single nerd clowning on MLID cannot even begin to hold a conversation with the people he gets there. An economy, including an economy of information, isn't about competence but about networking different competences together. MLID just happens to be the best we have in terms of open tech conversation.

Good response.

I think there's a phenomenon that when someone is not all that deep, but is sufficiently wide, and especially if they are wider than you are, you err towards giving yellow flags the benefit of the doubt. And, when the alternative is someone like RGT who throws a dozen red flags a minute, that surely helps.

Mahboi · Apr 5, 2024

coercitiv said:
His interviews were already discussed on the GPU forum favorably, some us us consider the interview format a possible way for him to get out of the impossible situation of always having a leak available for his core audience. Constantly having juicy leaks for all the upcoming products is his current business model. MLID lying to his audience or to himself is an economical certainty. That does not preclude him from building a decent show with a different format, he has skills for it.

That's not how it works either.
You can have an interviewer with excellent skills and he can be entirely ignored. Especially since the YT Algorithm recommendations pull a lot of weight.
Go to MLID's channel and see the amount of views per vid. I'm not sure of the pattern, but I'd expect leaks to be twice as much as podcasts, podcasts with his bro to be much less than with actual guests, and videogame/client/non server stuff to be faaaaaaaar more popular than talking about the server market.

It's not "he could be good as an interviewer, but he fakes being a leaker". It's "he does what works to get the clout and attention".

Ironically this entire clowning affair may do as much good to him as it does harm. I don't think he'll get out scot free if Zen 5 is indeed 40%+ though.

Hitman928 · Apr 5, 2024

I have no ill will towards MLID and honestly don’t care if his channel is super successful or not, if he entertains people enough that they want to keep watching him, more power to him. However, what I do object to, is people constantly linking to his channel or articles written with him as a source and acting (or maybe honestly believing) like he has any real credibility. It only mucks up the conversation and leads to a lot of hype trains that crash and burn or unfounded mocking or criticism of unreleased products based purely on BS presented as journalism.

He’s not the only one, obviously, but also seems to be the only one that has ardent defenders/supporters for whatever reason. It’s the same to me as tabloid newspapers. I don’t care if people read them and like them (and once in a long while, they actually do break a real story). Just don’t start into a serious discussion and then start citing them as a source.

The “twitter gang” of leakers is more recent to this forum. I don’t have an opinion on them as of yet as, at least here, they haven’t been around long enough for me to form an opinion but I can already tell their knowledge of tech and the markets is way beyond MLID.

Edit: The reason I started this thread wasn’t to try and embarrass or ridicule MLID, but rather to show why I don’t think he has any credibility and shouldn’t be used as a trustworthy source in this forum. In addition, people could just point to this thread any time someone does try to cite him instead of explaining over and over again, across multiple threads, why his “leaks” should pretty much just be ignored.

coercitiv · Apr 5, 2024

Mahboi said:
It's not "he could be good as an interviewer, but he fakes being a leaker". It's "he does what works to get the clout and attention".

That's not how it works: if he keeps doing what he does, he will eventually lose even the few true sources he has access to. His reputation will make that happen. Folks like the Twitter gang are also part of "how it works". The events of today are the perfect example of what happens in the real world when all you care for is clout and attention.

Mahboi said:
Ironically this entire clowning affair may do as much good to him as it does harm.

The word you're looking for is toxic. The leaks bring him more revenue, but in order to sustain the demand from his audience he MUST produce more leaks than any real source is willing to give him. Go back and read what I wrote:

coercitiv said:
Constantly having juicy leaks for all the upcoming products is his current business model. MLID lying to his audience or to himself is an economical certainty.

You talk as if we don't understand his conundrum, and yet this forum has discussed his case more times than I care to remember. He either finds a way to complement his true leaks with other show formats, or he keeps running in this toxic loop until his credibility runs out.

Panino Manino · Apr 5, 2024

dr1337 said:
All you guys did was give MLID more publicity and made him stronger...

The human mind is really fascinating and beyond comprehension.
I really don't understand...

dr1337 · Apr 5, 2024

Panino Manino said:
The human mind is really fascinating and beyond comprehension.
I really don't understand...

More people are going to click his video because of this drama, thus he makes more money, and he also learned about a group of people trying to undermine his livelihood.

You guys are laughing at him but he isn't losing anything at all right now. More people are paying attention to him than would have otherwise, thats a fact.

Panino Manino · Apr 5, 2024

dr1337 said:
More people are going to click his video because of this drama, thus he makes more money, and he also learned about a group of people trying to undermine his livelihood.

You guys are laughing at him but he isn't losing anything at all right now. More people are paying attention to him than would have otherwise, thats a fact.

What is the tittle of this topic?
Why this topic was created?
I think this forum got it's answer and I hope to not see this "leaker" being linked or discussed here anymore.

adamge · Apr 5, 2024

Panino Manino said:
What is the tittle of this topic?
Why this topic was created?
I think this forum got it's answer and I hope to not see this "leaker" being linked or discussed here anymore.

For me, leaker intrigue is more interesting than the drip feed of 5% YoY improvement from the industry.

Ranulf · Apr 6, 2024

HurleyBird said:
Why does he get so many interviews and collaborations with legit tech people? Can't they smell the fakeness?

He's a good communicator overall. I saw he had Tim from HUB on a podcast recently. I wonder if he asked him about the FSR controversy. I remember MLID thinking it was silly and had some source claiming it was PR drama.

DAPUNISHER · Apr 6, 2024

Ranulf said:
He's a good communicator overall. I saw he had Tim from HUB on a podcast recently. I wonder if he asked him about the FSR controversy. I remember MLID thinking it was silly and had some source claiming it was PR drama.

That's when I listen to his show, mostly while cooking. When there's a good guest on.

whoshere · Apr 7, 2024

No.

/Thread

Panino Manino · Apr 7, 2024

Sorry for the up, but I have to say, I'm a bit curious.
MLID went radio silent "when the bomb dropped". I wonder if he got away from the internet for a while and didn't see the other bombs that dropped "to finish the job", because before going quiet he made that tweet acknowledging his "mistake", but only part of it. He foolishly doubled down saying "every quote in said video took input from long-term sources that insist it's correct".

Yes, it's just morbid curiosity, but I wonder how a person must feel when they face plant in the concrete this hard. He must at least be doing some soul searching finding a slightly different path in online life to take when he returns.

(but unfortunately, we should be more concerned but how his public will receive him back. will his "leaks" continue to be spread as news in forums and tech websites as before like nothing happening polluting the discussion and unhealthy inflating expectations? I'm really praying to not be disappointed)

Heartbreaker · Apr 13, 2024

Panino Manino said:
MLID went radio silent "when the bomb dropped".

IIRC, he previously claimed he stepping away from MLID after another previous major mistake and the blowback, but that didn't last... unfortunately.

FlameTail · Apr 16, 2024

Intel R&D engineer comments on Meteor Lake and MLID's validity:

Timorous · Apr 16, 2024

FlameTail said:
Intel R&D engineer comments on Meteor Lake and MLID's validity:
View attachment 97052

I stand by my comment. RPL at lower TDP on a new node, even with the packaging and iGPU advancements is very very unambitious.

FlameTail · Apr 16, 2024

Timorous said:
I stand by my comment. RPL at lower TDP on a new node, even with the packaging and iGPU advancements is very very unambitious.

Oh, didn't notice it was you who made that comment. XD.

cherullo · Apr 16, 2024

Sony Takes Down PS5 Pro Video From Known Tech YouTuber Moore's Law is Dead

Sony Interactive Entertainment has taken down a PS5 Pro video from last month from known Tech YouTuber 'Moore's Law is Dead'.

wccftech.com

Sony took down MLID's PS5 Pro video, the one disclosing Spectral Super Resolution.
It's not the first time that he posts about Sony or Playstation. I wonder why this one was specifically targeted....

Abwx · Apr 16, 2024

FlameTail said:
Intel R&D engineer comments on Meteor Lake and MLID's validity:
View attachment 97052

This so called Intel insider claiming that MTL has better perf and perf/watt at 28W-35W than the 7840H is even worse than MLID since we all know that it s a fairy tale, so much to use his marketing driven sayings as a prove against MLID s innaccuracy.

Hitman928 · Apr 16, 2024

Abwx said:
This so called Intel insider claiming that MTL has better perf and perf/watt at 28W-35W than the 7840H is even worse than MLID since we all know that it s a fairy tale, so much to use his marketing driven sayings as a prove against MLID s innaccuracy.

The poster is probably using the Intel definition of power where 28W means 55+W sustained for the Intel CPU. That's what we saw when Intel did their MTL preview showing MTL stomp on Zen 4 with both at "28 W" and a promise that they weren't, "playing any games with the power," only to find out later that the Intel CPU was consuming like 60 W sustained the whole time (versus like 35 W for their Zen 4 sample).

Kepler_L2 · Apr 16, 2024

Abwx said:
This so called Intel insider claiming that MTL has better perf and perf/watt at 28W-35W than the 7840H is even worse than MLID since we all know that it s a fairy tale, so much to use his marketing driven sayings as a prove against MLID s innaccuracy.

Delusion runs deep within Intel.

Abwx · Apr 16, 2024

Hitman928 said:
The poster is probably using the Intel definition of power where 28W means 55+W sustained for the Intel CPU. That's what we saw when Intel did their MTL preview showing MTL stomp on Zen 4 with both at "28 W" and a promise that they weren't, "playing any games with the power," only to find out later that the Intel CPU was consuming like 60 W sustained the whole time (versus like 35 W for their Zen 4 sample).

Was sure it was something like this, laws of physics be damned, the guy can talk as much as he wants about MLID who ended being right about MTL being unfit for 100W TDP in respect of RPL.

Kepler_L2 said:
Delusion runs deep within Intel.

Worse is that there s surely bandwagons of people believing these trickeries, it take to be a geek forumer to have some clues about those gross inaccuracies.

uzzi38 · Apr 30, 2024

uzzi38 said:
There's a major feature of STX-Halo that hasn't leaked yet so I'd assume no-one has got actual slides on the part yet. At least not detailed enough slides that I'd be confident in all of the core parts of the thing (don't ask me what it is, when you find out, you'll know what I'm referring to).

Just setting expectations here.

Oh hey look, it finally happened, from the looks of it. He finally found out to at least some degree, although I've only seen a screenshot rather than a video of it so I have no clue how much he knows.

Well guess it'll be on the main thread sooner or later now.

Gideon · Apr 30, 2024

uzzi38 said:
Oh hey look, it finally happened, from the looks of it. He finally found out to at least some degree, although I've only seen a screenshot rather than a video of it so I have no clue how much he knows.

Well guess it'll be on the main thread sooner or later now.

The what now, some new (yet unreleased) MLID video?

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