120Hz Monitor LIST -- Includes LightBoost, G-SYNC, Overclockable, etc.

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Mark Rejhon

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From what I understand of the new tech, this will be something that will potentially have issues with Lightboost, unless I missed a bit where they can synch all three elements (monitor refresh, fps, and lightboost strobing).
I think more hacking will be required, or a choice between G synch and lightboost.
Hopefully Mark is looking into things and will be able to offer more insight.
I just posted a new thread, because it's a completely separate topic from this 120Hz monitors thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2348974

In short, all G-SYNC monitors include a LightBoost sequel:
-- G-SYNC mode: Better for variable framerates (less stutters but more blur)
-- Strobe mode: Better for max framerates 120fps@120Hz (zero motion blur)
 

jackstar7

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I just posted a new thread, because it's a completely separate topic from this 120Hz monitors thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2348974

In short, all G-SYNC monitors include a LightBoost sequel:
-- G-SYNC mode: Better for variable framerates (less stutters but more blur)
-- Strobe mode: Better for max framerates 120fps@120Hz (zero motion blur)

Knew we could count on you! Thanks!
 

A5

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I just posted a new thread, because it's a completely separate topic from this 120Hz monitors thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2348974

In short, all G-SYNC monitors include a LightBoost sequel:
-- G-SYNC mode: Better for variable framerates (less stutters but more blur)
-- Strobe mode: Better for max framerates 120fps@120Hz (zero motion blur)

So basically you're better off with G-Sync unless you have some serious GPU power?
 

looper

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There is a post on blurbusters.com that says that nVidia has said that we can use both G-Sync and back-light-strobing at the same time. On the other hand, John Carmack has tweeted that at this time, you can't use both features at the same time. Let's hope that is only true for the upgraded monitors. And that by the time the new ones come out next year, you can use both at the same time.

Well, I was about to get one of the BenQ or Asus TN monitors and a new nVidia video card to get the LightBoost 2D capability. Now, with this new GSync feature, I'm going to hold up 'til the Spring of '14...
 

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Well, I was about to get one of the BenQ or Asus TN monitors and a new nVidia video card to get the LightBoost 2D capability. Now, with this new GSync feature, I'm going to hold up 'til the Spring of '14...

If you get the Asus VG248QE (assuming 24" was what you were looking at), you could still get it now, and buy the upgrade kit later.

Though there may be other interesting offers Q1 2014.
 

looper

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If you get the Asus VG248QE (assuming 24" was what you were looking at), you could still get it now, and buy the upgrade kit later.

Though there may be other interesting offers Q1 2014.

It will drive me crazy to wait that long, especially knowing I'll get Battlefield 4 in a few days....
 

bystander36

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It will drive me crazy to wait that long, especially knowing I'll get Battlefield 4 in a few days....

Assuming you were going to get a 24" Lightboost monitor before, the Asus VG248QE fits that bill, getting what you wanted, with the ability to upgrade later to use Gsync.

Of course this is only a good idea if that is what you wanted, and want when its available.
 

Childs

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I was about to be pissed, but then I see I already bought the VG248QE to do Lightboost in 2D. :thumbsup:
 

Gryz

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Anyone seen the new Eizo Foris FG2421 monitor ?

120Hz input.
It is a VA screen, not TN.
Official zero-motion-blur technology (and is on by default).
Can be disabled. Seems to work differently than a stroboscope backlight.

Estimated price is 500 euros (in my country, NL).

Is this the first screen that has been build especially for zero-motion-blur ?

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Some more info:
24" 1920x1080.
Input is DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort, at 120Hz.
Internally it has a 240Hz refresh-rate.
VA technology. 176 degrees viewing angle.
12.5 ms additional display lag.
Turbo-feature displays black frames between regular frames. Can be disabled (e.g. for desktop).
Looks like that is different from a stroboscope backlight ?
 
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Mark Rejhon

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Anyone seen the new Eizo Foris FG2421 monitor ?
Yep.

120Hz input.
It is a VA screen, not TN.
Official zero-motion-blur technology (and is on by default).
Can be disabled. Seems to work differently than a stroboscope backlight.
Nope, it's also a strobe backlight too. It says so in the EIZO FG2421 manual, page 18.
To reduce motion blur
Reduces image blurs (motion blurs) which occur when displaying animated images.
Motion blur occurs when the eye recognizes liquid crystal transitions which come from changing screens
(frames). When “Turbo 240” is set to “On”, the backlight flickers in sync with liquid crystal transition*1 so the
change cannot be seen, thereby achieving clear images with less blur
.
*1 This monitor converts 120 Hz input signals into 240 Hz within the panel, and doubles the refresh rate to draw two
images per frame. At the first display the screen is refreshed, and at the second display the screen is displayed
correctly. When “Turbo 240” is set to “On”, the backlight is turned off for the first display.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck -- it's a strobe backlight, just like LightBoost (unofficial) and G-SYNC's upcoming low-persistence mode (official).

Is this the first screen that has been build especially for zero-motion-blur ?
- It beat G-SYNC to official announcement
- LightBoost is unofficial.

So yep, this is the first official modern vendor-sanctioned LightBoost-like mode intentionally to reduce motion blur. (I'm assuming Eizo is also sending AnandTech a review unit too. Eizo is also sending me a review unit as well). BENQ did come out with AMA-Z in year 2006 and others, which attempted to use backlight modulation to reduce motion blur, but those were horribly inefficient (Why? Explanation at TFT Central about how today's strobe backlights are more efficient).

2014 is an exciting year of low-persistence strobe-mode monitors!
LightBoost modes. G-SYNC modes. Turbo 240 modes. And possibly other brand names of strobe backlights.
 
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looper

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I just ordered the Eizo FG2421... Should have it by the 10th I hope. Son and I are PC gamers, and I will use it instead of our IPS Dell U2410.

The 24" Dell goes to the Boss who currently has a 17" 4x3 IPS.

This worked out well!
 

abaez

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Are there any 30" 120hz monitors yet? I use my Dell as a TV too so I can't go back to anything smaller.
 
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looper

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Very interesting indeed. If I wasn't interested in G-sync, I might put this on my Christmas list.

I still have my 24" IPS Dell/Phillips 'U2410' if I'm not happy... but I know I will be, because I'm an old school PC gamer since '93...
 

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So what's the best 120hz monitor out there now?

My samsung sa750d 24" has lost about 100 pixels overnight in the middle of the screen.

$400 to replace my monitor would have gone to a r9 290, but now this is the more important purchase. I have only had this monitor for about 2 years, first time I've ever had a failure like this. I'll be steering clear of samsung.

Any recommendations for an avid FPS gamer? Perhaps the Asus one that will support G-Sync in the future?

This could not have come at a worse time. 4k coming down in price in the next few years and here I am forced to buy another 1080p monitor...
 

Childs

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So what's the best 120hz monitor out there now?

My samsung sa750d 24" has lost about 100 pixels overnight in the middle of the screen.

$400 to replace my monitor would have gone to a r9 290, but now this is the more important purchase. I have only had this monitor for about 2 years, first time I've ever had a failure like this. I'll be steering clear of samsung.

Any recommendations for an avid FPS gamer? Perhaps the Asus one that will support G-Sync in the future?

This could not have come at a worse time. 4k coming down in price in the next few years and here I am forced to buy another 1080p monitor...

I have the VG248QE, and its only $270 through BHphoto with no tax and free shipping. No issues so far, you can do the lighboost 2d hack as a stop gap till the gsync module is released, and it even has builtin crosshairs.
 

VulgarDisplay

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I have the VG248QE, and its only $270 through BHphoto with no tax and free shipping. No issues so far, you can do the lighboost 2d hack as a stop gap till the gsync module is released, and it even has builtin crosshairs.

It's on newegg right now with 30 dollars off. I'll probably pick it up. Just sucks. I would have kept this monitor until 4k got affordable, but now I have to get another 1080p turd just to tide me over. Could have bought a GPU or new CPU with that money.

And I usually love forced upgrades :'(

God I love amazon. Ordered at 2:00pm and they will have it to me tomorrow @$266 plus $16 bucks shipping. I'll take that over Newegg at $250 and $40 bucks and the earliest they can get it here is monday.
 
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Childs

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It's on newegg right now with 30 dollars off. I'll probably pick it up. Just sucks. I would have kept this monitor until 4k got affordable, but now I have to get another 1080p turd just to tide me over. Could have bought a GPU or new CPU with that money.

And I usually love forced upgrades :'(

Its usually better to buy when you want something, not when you need it. Just not as satisfying.
 

bystander36

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It's on newegg right now with 30 dollars off. I'll probably pick it up. Just sucks. I would have kept this monitor until 4k got affordable, but now I have to get another 1080p turd just to tide me over. Could have bought a GPU or new CPU with that money.

And I usually love forced upgrades :'(

God I love amazon. Ordered at 2:00pm and they will have it to me tomorrow @$266 plus $16 bucks shipping. I'll take that over Newegg at $250 and $40 bucks and the earliest they can get it here is monday.

You may check out the display that looper linked: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_fg2421.htm

It is 120hz with a pulsing backlight system, but instead of a TN panel, it is a VA panel. The bad news is it probably won't ever get a kit for G-sync, like the VG248QE.
 
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