Discussion AMD's Future APU Gone ARM?

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Doug S

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Ironically Mini ITX was created by VIA, a relatively minor CPU manufacturer vs Intel and AMD.

It's not impossible that an OEM like Dell could create a new standard for mobos much as they did for RAM, or Intel could just decide to have another crack at it themselves.


Mini ITX was picked up because that was all there was for SFFs, but the selection is tiny compared to ATX/mATX. A serious SFF standard would drop ATX and have a single 24v DC coax input and rely on VRMs to translate voltages as needed on the board. Then you do away with the power supply in the case and use a cheap 24v brick to power it. It would drop all the legacy crap with those fiddly little headers for connecting front ports and LEDs, and stick an RJ45 port or two on the board to handle those connections to the case. That sort of thing.

But there's no one with authority to say "hey that's a good idea" - a board maker and a case maker might both recognize that dropping headers for RJ45 makes sense from an ease of use and cost perspective, but they can't implement that because unless all or at least most boards and cases support it you're just selling this weirdo product with an RJ45 that requires you make/buy some Frankenstein cable to connect it to the legacy headers on the other end.

What incentive does Dell have to create a mobo standard with DIYers in mind? Dell doesn't sell motherboards, they sell PCs.
 
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Shivansps

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If you are so confident with your Mali theory, then the upcoming Exynos SoC is not related to AMD ARM APU. Why not you start a thread dedicated to Samsung ARM SoC with Mali GPU? I am sure based on non-existence agreement and non-mentioning Mali should be great help. Go ahead, I am waiting...
We just need ONE ARM thread and be done with it, just like with RISC.
 

SarahKerrigan

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Do you have an Itanium server or system board to play with?

What's the highest core CPU you own and which one is it?

I have "only" one Itanium system at this point, an rx2800 i4 (final generation HP rack system.)

Highest core count CPU is a TileGX that's been gathering dust for a few years.
 
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Shivansps

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Considering the large spectrum of ARM SoC's available and in development, that sounds like a lot. Would you advocate for only one x86 thread?

(Also, can we have a permanent Itanium thread? Please? For me?)
X86 is just AMD and Intel... You really want to have one thread per ARM SoC or company?
 

FlameTail

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Is nobody talking about this AMD ARM SoC that was announced recently?


The new AMD Versal Gen 2 SoCs aim to provide up to 3x higher TOPs per Watt than their first-generation devices. On the CPU side, they tout the "new high-performance integrated Arm CPUs" as up to 10x more scalar compute than earlier Versal SoCs. With Versal coming from their Xilinx acquisition, they continue making use of Arm SoCs and with the Gen 2 SoCs are now using Cortex-A78AE processor cores.
 
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gdansk

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When 10nm slipped and broke its own back Altera became a pointless acquisition.
AMD never intended to make Xilinx into a captive customer by acquisition.
AMD also remembers that it survived two disasters (K5 and Bulldozer) by being somewhat diversified.
 

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SarahKerrigan

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Because the influential executives there are arrogant and they suffer from "Not Invented Here" syndrome. Any success from a non-Intel team could jeopardize them politically inside the company.

Combine that with internal political feuds on a scale that makes IBM look mild. (I don't know if this is necessarily still the case, but it certainly used to be, and I've seen nothing to suggest that it's changed.)
 
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