Anandtech vs Tom's Hardware Folding@Home Coronavirus Race thread

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mopardude87

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My stats aren't AS bad as they seem, I forgot I folded first under my original name 'rise4310'

When I fired back up for covid race, I ws folding under a different 'RISE" account, lol

Ah well, the work got done

Yeah the client didn't like the name i use for chat, so going with "hemiunderglass" as the alias for me. Meh, not a big deal but yeah excited to be folding again. Haven't had a good time with it since like idk my gtx670 back in the day? Glad its working the best it can, looks like the gpu side of things is just working and well why not. Gonna do worlds more then the cpu even if i want both running.
 
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StefanR5R

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Day 8: Thursday, March 26
14:00 UTC stats
(10 AM EDT, 7 AM PDT)
links: official race stats, TeAm AnandTech at EOC, Tom's Hardware at EOC

Daily production


Overtake estimation
race
points
deltalast
24h
overtake
based on
last 24h
2-day
avg.
overtake
based on
2-day avg.
3-day
avg.
overtake
based on
3-day avg.
TeAm AnandTech
935 M​
169 M​
99 M​
98 M​
100 M​
Tom's Hardware
766 M​
102 M​
45 days​
101 M​
49 days​
95 M​
—​

PS, the overtake estimation means:
  • If the TeAm and Tom's continue to fold like during the last 24 hours, then Tom's will overtake us after 45 days from now.
  • If we fold like during the last 48 hours on average, then the overtake happens 49 days from now.
  • If it goes like during the last 72 hours on average, then Tom's don't stand a chance.
8 days done, 20 days to go. :-)
 
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Ken g6

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@Ken g6 Can you modify your script to do the math between the 2 numbers ? Its easier to tell if we are losing or gaining ground.
I'll look into it, but it's not as easy as you might think. The script is designed to run for any number of teams, so I need to make a grid. I also forget how I minified the script.

I recently tried a CPU work unit, and it's a COVID task too, so I'm running some CPU now. 12 real CPU cores ~= 1 750 Ti.
 

mopardude87

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If this stimulus check thing happens, i MAY opt for a 3700x or even idk maybe a 3900x to replace this 7700k for folding. Eventually will need a upgrade and well this could help out with folding and well i would still be set 3 years till a game punishes the holy heck out out of my 1080ti. BY then no issue with a Ampere or Ampere refresh upgrade perhaps? Shame how pathetically expensive the 2080ti is, i would prob opt for one of those but i got a feeling even if i scored a deal on one the second Ampere and next comes out, the 2080ti will prob be trash.

Thinking 3900x+ 16gb cl14 3200mhz memory and a msi b450 Tohomawk. Most likely a 3800x at worst but 3900x for the team maybe but what sorta ppd will either of those options pull?

Edit: friend on his 8400t will get the 7700k and a friend who has been on a 2500k since 2012 will be getting the 8400t so its sorta like upgrades for everyone. The 7700k will still be folding of course.
 

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A closely related mbrd to my main rig, it's got the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC (blah, blah, blah! wth is up with these ridiculously long names now??).
Tbh I doubt it's worth spending much on the CPU as far as F@H goes, probably better off putting it towards a better GPU, or simply saving it! Their used to be a thread comparing F@H CPU performance in the folding forums, but I don't know if it's still upto date. Anyway I'll let the big & regular folders give more info on CPU crunching .
Nice one on the FB recruiting btw
 
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mopardude87

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A closely related mbrd to my main rig, it's got the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC (blah, blah, blah! wth is up with these ridiculously long names now??).
Tbh I doubt it's worth spending much on the CPU as far as F@H goes, probably better off putting it towards a better GPU, or simply saving it! Their used to be a thread comapring F@H CPU performance in the folding forums, but I don't know if it's still upto date. Anyway I'll let the big & regular folders give more info on CPU crunching .
Nice one on the FB recruiting btw

Yeah i got the Asrock Z270 Killer sli/ac and its still even a mouth full. As far as cpus i will prob eventually need a upgrade and well if i could take something i got, turn it into something more productive and still be good 3 years with gaming its not even really a waste. Prob leaning towards the 3700x. Having a 1080ti, i mean i could sli it but would need sli bridge and a new psu. Another option to consider but already MASSIVELY cpu bottlenecked in like idk all my games right down to BF5 on the 7700k.

Decisions, decisions but yeah forking the money into a 3700x will feed the economy as well, its more or less its intended purpose this check and well whats more worthy then a new cpu to crunch and game? I can't think of anything besides a replacement fan for my 1080ti and my CM H500P Mesh upgrade i got planned next week. Good on everything maybe till 2021 with gpu PERHAPS. Depends if RT takes off in next gen games and its not a absolute hog.

Edit: the swap from a 8400t to 7700k for secondary cruncher will increase ppd from 37k to 52k so while main rig gets updated,the second only grows more powerful.
 
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mopardude87

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Yea if you need it for gaming, then go for it .
What's RT?

Ray tracing, and i could skip enabling such a option if i could max everything out. I will prob still be cpu bottlenecked in everything even with a 3700x. But that is ok when games open up to the idea of using more then 12 threads that 3700x will feed the 1080ti nicely . Big maybe on the idea of a gpu upgrade, I get something like 60% gpu usage i think with the 7700k+ 1080ti combined maxed out minus RT at 1080p in BF5.

Edit: currently more excited about folding then gaming, but better to have it then not to have it and want it. no placement for displacement.
 

Markfw

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Ray tracing, and i could skip enabling such a option if i could max everything out. I will prob still be cpu bottlenecked in everything even with a 3700x. But that is ok when games open up to the idea of using more then 12 threads that 3700x will feed the 1080ti nicely . Big maybe on the idea of a gpu upgrade, I get something like 60% gpu usage i think with the 7700k+ 1080ti combined maxed out minus RT at 1080p in BF5.
a 2060 is about the same price, $300. I would consider that also.
 

mopardude87

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a 2060 is about the same price, $300. I would consider that also.

Only RT enabled card i would be interested in would be a 2080 ti and well idk what Nvidia is smoking, but it must be like really good and i am upset they aren't sharing. Still retails for $1,1100. Thanks but no thanks Nvidia. You can keep your extortion priced RTX cards. I could have easily afforded a $700 2080 super when i got this 1080ti but idk not paying that much more for same ballpark performance and less vram. $440 vs $700 for same performance just about.

Edit: tech jesus said it best, here we go

 

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Ray tracing, and i could skip enabling such a option if i could max everything out. I will prob still be cpu bottlenecked in everything even with a 3700x. But that is ok when games open up to the idea of using more then 12 threads that 3700x will feed the 1080ti nicely . Big maybe on the idea of a gpu upgrade, I get something like 60% gpu usage i think with the 7700k+ 1080ti combined maxed out minus RT at 1080p in BF5.

Edit: currently more excited about folding then gaming, but better to have it then not to have it and want it. no placement for displacement.

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I vote 3900x on a solid x570 board. The guys in the motherboard subforum sold me on getting solid power delivery for 3900x/3950x because board temps can soar (heat being bad) on lesser boards. Not a big deal for gaming, probably, but when it comes to Folding or other sustained 100% CPU usage that can be a much bigger deal.

Ampere and RDNA2 cards coming out are likely the real target for replacing a 1080ti and actually being able to use the RT features. That's my $.02. The theoretical RT performance on Series X chip is, from my math, maybe an order of magnitude greater than the current Nvidia chips? It might be more fixed function (?) but we know that games are going to target that feature/performance level due to the future likelyhood of ~100M Xbox Series x/PS5s out in the wild.
 

mopardude87

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I vote 3900x on a solid x570 board. The guys in the motherboard subforum sold me on getting solid power delivery for 3900x/3950x because board temps can soar (heat being bad) on lesser boards. Not a big deal for gaming, probably, but when it comes to Folding or other sustained 100% CPU usage that can be a much bigger deal.

Ampere and RDNA2 cards coming out are likely the real target for replacing a 1080ti and actually being able to use the RT features. That's my $.02. The theoretical RT performance on Series X chip is, from my math, maybe an order of magnitude greater than the current Nvidia chips? It might be more fixed function (?) but we know that games are going to target that feature/performance level due to the future likelyhood of ~100M Xbox Series x/PS5s out in the wild.

I agree with you 110%. But got lost about the USER NAME CHECKS OUT comment. Splain to me Lucy?

Kinda working on maybe keeping to a budget perhaps, i wanna spend a little something but idk not that much. Not gonna use like half of what even the B450 offers to up and dump more money into something i prob will never fully take advantage of. Heck i still have no use for usb 3.0....not even kidding here. Prob why a 3700x+ B450 would be perfect and plus my psu only has the single 8 pin cpu connector. It's a good unit but not set up for x570/Z390 without some adapters or entire psu swap.
 

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I agree with you 110%. But got lost about the USER NAME CHECKS OUT comment. Splain to me Lucy?

Kinda working on maybe keeping to a budget perhaps, i wanna spend a little something but idk not that much. Not gonna use like half of what even the B450 offers to up and dump more money into something i prob will never fully take advantage of. Heck i still have no use for usb 3.0....not even kidding here. Prob why a 3700x+ B450 would be perfect and plus my psu only has the single 8 pin cpu connector. It's a good unit but not set up for x570/Z390 without some adapters or entire psu swap.

Haha, "MoparDude" - and Mopar being the current "we'll substitute HP for... everything!" king So your username checks out with your post "no replacement for displacement".

There are some solid x570 boards (Asrock Pro4, for example) with some solid specs for not that much more than a solid B450 board - and it only requires one 8 pin. I just wanted something shinier and honestly got spooked to save some money so dropped back to 16GB of ram and saved ~$30 on the motherboard. So yeah, budgets happen
 

mopardude87

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Haha, "MoparDude" - and Mopar being the current "we'll substitute HP for... everything!" king So your username checks out with your post "no replacement for displacement".

Yeah i love classic mopar, preferably anything prior to 1970. Had a few including a 1965 newport 383 2 door, 66 dart 2 door slant 6, 67 4 door dart slant 6, 68 dart 4 door slant 6 which was the car i learned to drive in then 2 1974 swingers with slant 6 and then a 1974 dart sport with a 318. If i don't require any gpu upgrades next year, its prob going right into a 360 magnum from summit racing. I may even build up a 360 but that magnum from summit racing looks amazing. 320hp stock before carb/headers/possibly rear end upgrades.

I may look at X570 but idk i heard the MSI B450 Tomahawk max can run even a 3950x without issue. Honestly would be content worst case with a 3900x.


 
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All the WUs that had trouble uploading have just uploaded. Only got 10k points rather than 100k for each, but better than nothing
 
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mopardude87

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Not a single cpu wu today, the 1080ti has been chugging along pretty ok. I do have to pause/resume folding for it to pick up on wu and get it working. Then its usually only gpu. The other rig idk its like sorcery its been chugging non stop on both cpu+ gpu.
 

rise

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Yeah the client didn't like the name i use for chat, so going with "hemiunderglass" as the alias for me. Meh, not a big deal but yeah excited to be folding again. Haven't had a good time with it since like idk my gtx670 back in the day? Glad its working the best it can, looks like the gpu side of things is just working and well why not. Gonna do worlds more then the cpu even if i want both running.
I think I folded some boinc projects with you back in the day, heh. I think I was running an amd x2 (64 bit y'all! haha)

I wish I could remember more of the people, good times
 

rise

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Not a single cpu wu today, the 1080ti has been chugging along pretty ok. I do have to pause/resume folding for it to pick up on wu and get it working. Then its usually only gpu. The other rig idk its like sorcery its been chugging non stop on both cpu+ gpu.
same, my 3700x hasn't done a damn thing.
 

mopardude87

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same, my 3700x hasn't done a damn thing.

Its almost discouraging me from even doing a 3700x/3900x purchase honestly. Would hate having the 3700x be completely idle, would kill me seeing so much wasted untapped potential just like sitting there doing nothing.

About your prior post to Boinc, i never did any and what little folding i did years ago was on a username i don't remember anymore. The "hemiunderglass" username is just for this since its tossing a fit about this username which i sorta preferred but oh well. Same wu and ppd no matter the username anyways You new back to folding or been around some time?
 

rise

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Its almost discouraging me from even doing a 3700x/3900x purchase honestly. Would hate having the 3700x be completely idle, would kill me seeing so much wasted untapped potential just like sitting there doing nothing.

About your prior post to Boinc, i never did any and what little folding i did years ago was on a username i don't remember anymore. The "hemiunderglass" username is just for this since its tossing a fit about this username which i sorta preferred but oh well. Same wu and ppd no matter the username anyways You new back to folding or been around some time?
Ah, sucks getting old and forgetful hehe. I just came back for the covid tho I think I might get back into it, I forgot how fun such a nerd can have with this stuff
 
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I am getting 7 out of 12 cards (GPU) working for about 12 million ppd most of the time. Toms is still ahead by a few million ppd every day, but we might survive.
 

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I'll look into it, but it's not as easy as you might think. The script is designed to run for any number of teams, so I need to make a grid. I also forget how I minified the script.
Stats updated, with an ahead/behind table, and with commas!
 
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