I would argue that a full VR headset would never be useful for everyday tasks. VR is the wrong approach. AR glasses could be useful for everyday tasks (light glasses, ala google glass). VR is too isolating and restrictive. Apple's approach of shoe horning a bunch of cameras to add pass through to the VR headset just doesn't improve anything IMO.I'd really like to see Meta rethink its approach after this. It currently reats the Quest headsets as vehicles for the metaverse... which only really appeals to someone who read Snow Crash one too many times. Ideally, it'd focus more on a headset that's useful for everyday tasks and just happens to tap into the metaverse.
I would argue that a full VR headset would never be useful for everyday tasks. VR is the wrong approach. AR glasses could be useful for everyday tasks (light glasses, ala google glass). VR is too isolating and restrictive. Apple's approach of shoe horning a bunch of cameras to add pass through to the VR headset just doesn't improve anything IMO.
I guess that the advantage of a Google glass type thing is that you can wear it out and about. I can see the use in a general HUD. Navigating a new city on foot for example.Have you seen how bad AR glasses are? Usually very low resolution, and translucent. Google Glass is only in one eye...
Apples alternative with a bunch of cameras provides a MASSIVE leap in image quality.
I guess that the advantage of a Google glass type thing is that you can wear it out and about. I can see the use in a general HUD. Navigating a new city on foot for example.
I think that people are more accepting of that sort of thing now. Google was just a bit ahead of the time then.That was the theory, but they were so unpopular and generated so much animosity that Google canceled the consumer product (you can still get them in the industrial setting).
I think that Google glass type things are a different product category to Vision pro. They don't really compete at all.In industrial settings, I think Vision Pro has a strong chance of killing Google Glass (and other similar AR glasses). You go from being able to read a sentence with Google Glass, to being able to read a full page of a manual with high res diagrams.
Reports are that Vision Pro delivers on the dream of having multiple big virtual computer monitors.
I think that people are more accepting of that sort of thing now. Google was just a bit ahead of the time then.
I think that Google glass type things are a different product category to Vision pro. They don't really compete at all.
Well the wearing it in public is a fairly big deal! You could walk around a city and get information about land marks or directions and reviews of restaurants.Outside of wearing it out in public, I don't see what Glass can do that VP can't do with MUCH greater fidelity.
I'm betting there will be MANY industrial users that will be interested in VP.
Well the wearing it in public is a fairly big deal! You could walk around a city and get information about land marks or directions and reviews of restaurants.
Have you seen how bad AR glasses are? Usually very low resolution, and translucent. Google Glass is only in one eye. You wouldn't want to read more than a sentence using these systems.
Apples alternative with a bunch of cameras provides a MASSIVE leap in image quality.
I mean you can watch TV and videos of your kids on your phone as well. Apples point would be that there are better ways to do that and I'd say the same of a HUD as you walk around.That really isn't the industrial use case though. And you can do all that with your smart phone, which is what everyone does.
I mean you can watch TV and videos of your kids on your phone as well. Apples point would be that there are better ways to do that and I'd say the same of a HUD as you walk around.
I can see a market for Google glass type product certainly. Imagine going abroad and every written language is translated and overlayed on the original text!So you see Google Glass making a comeback?
I can see a market for Google glass type product certainly. Imagine going abroad and every written language is translated and overlayed on the original text!
I mean I'm probably not the ideal audience for any of these products, I don't even like wearing ear buds in public because I can't hear what's going on around me!
Super excited for VisionPro and VisionOS. Instead of trying to be yet another VR gaming headset, this thing is aiming to be a general computer in AR. Sounds simple but that is absolutely huge. The eye control is amazing, it puts itself in another class of device compared to every other headset out there just from the eye/hand control. This thing will become my main computer.
When you actually put on the headset, though, you'll often find that the promotional video was pure aspiration and reality still has some catching up to do. That was my experience with HoloLens, and it has been that way with consumer AR devices like Nreal, too.
That was not my experience with Vision Pro. To be clear, it wasn’t perfect. But it’s the first time I’ve tried an AR demo and thought, “Yep, what they showed in the promo video was pretty much how it really works.”
The image quality isn't really the issue. The use case is. VR is extremely isolating. It is cumbersome to use. It is fatiguing. Nothing that Apple showed fixes any of these issues. Taken at face value, the use proposition that apple has shown doesn't even make any sense. They imply that you will practically live in these things, but the battery life is only 2 hours.
"Use your computer" is a pretty damn big use case. I use my computer to browse the web, order stuff online, chat with people, video conference, play games, watch video and photos, do work, read books, learn new things, etc. That is the use case, it's a computer that runs in AR. People who keep asking about a single killer app or use are thinking of this thing as if it's a VR gaming headset. It's a general personal computer that is used in AR, an entirely different class of product than a VR gaming headset. Even at $3500 it well sell.- Yep. AR/VR, outside of specific commercial applications, is a classic solution in search of a problem.
Its somewhat telling that Apple's devs, some of the best in the world, could come up with for the product was "Use your computer and watch TV... but virtually" and then tossed it out to external devs to hope and pray they come up with a better use case.
"Use your computer" is a pretty damn big use case. People who keep asking about a single killer app or use are thinking of this thing as if it's a VR gaming headset. It's a general personal computer that is used in AR. Even at $3500 it well sell.
But you can't have your multi display setup be in the living room, then decide to go lay down and still have access to it and be able to use it. You can't easily travel with a multi display setup. If you don't want to see the very obvious enhancements and convenience and privacy features this brings to personal computing that's fine.-But I can already use my computer and paid an ophthalmologist $5000 to do it without a bunch of crap strapped to my face...
- Yep. AR/VR, outside of specific commercial applications, is a classic solution in search of a problem.
Its somewhat telling that Apple's devs, some of the best in the world, could come up with for the product was "Use your computer and watch TV... but virtually" and then tossed it out to external devs to hope and pray they come up with a better use case.
It's going to change the entire personal computing market. Not all at once, they'll need more affordable revisions in the future, but this is the future of computing without a doubt. Specifically, apps running in AR spaces and controlling the system via precise eye tracking and hand gestures.It's too expensive to sell in big numbers like iPhones, but its still going to change the headset market.
I see "Minority Report" in the near future.It's going to change the entire personal computing market. Not all at once, they'll need more affordable revisions in the future, but this is the future of computing without a doubt. Specifically, apps running in AR spaces and controlling the system via precise eye tracking and hand gestures.
It's going to change the entire personal computing market. Not all at once, they'll need more affordable revisions in the future, but this is the future of computing without a doubt. Specifically, apps running in AR spaces and controlling the system via precise eye tracking and hand gestures.