I can't wait to argue in bad faith about how they're too busy and it's just sooo complicated to support more than 1 upscaler.
Yes - bring on the chaos.
Yes - bring on the chaos.XeSS exclusivity is actually the best if you think about it sarcastically.
It pisses off both Red and Green enthusiasts which is about 98% of dedicated GPU owners. Even though it's actually good enough for both of them anyway.
How about showing some emotional maturity? Instead of acting so tribalistic and juvenile.I can't wait to argue in bad faith about how they're too busy and it's just sooo complicated to support more than 1 upscaler.
Yes - bring on the chaos.
I’m not being tribalistic in this case. I firmly believe that sponsorships that only include a single upscaler are BS and bad for the industry.How about showing some emotional maturity? Instead of acting so tribalistic and juvenile.
Exclusivity is a common practice that's been done for decades. Only manufactured outrage by the haterade brigade paints it in any other light.XeSS exclusivity is actually the best if you think about it sarcastically.
It pisses off both Red and Green enthusiasts which is about 98% of dedicated GPU owners. Even though it's actually good enough for both of them anyway.
It has been going on for decades yet PC gaming keeps growing. The partnerships infuse capital and technical help into development. That's a good thing.I’m not being tribalistic in this case. I firmly believe that sponsorships that only include a single upscaler are BS and bad for the industry.
Fair enough. But some people - a minority with long hair and beards that is almost always proven right - has different priorities. Consumers will be even better off when everything is FOSS.I’m not being tribalistic in this case. I firmly believe that sponsorships that only include a single upscaler are BS and bad for the industry.
I think you’re right, it’s bad for the consumer but probably a net positive to the industry.It has been going on for decades yet PC gaming keeps growing. The partnerships infuse capital and technical help into development. That's a good thing.
I think there is a stronger debate to be had by stating it's bad for consumers.
Frankly, I don’t care if it’s open source. I care about availability and image quality.Fair enough. But some people - a minority with long hair and beards that is almost always proven right - has different priorities. Consumers will be even better off when everything is FOSS.
I see less of a problem with FSR and XeSS. In general, all of this upscaler business is BS. You're holding developers to a standard where they either have to develop for, support and QA multiple upscalers or none at all.I’m not being tribalistic in this case. I firmly believe that sponsorships that only include a single upscaler are BS and bad for the industry.
Call on Nvidia to make DLSS open source and we can all be happy. But you don't. Poor Pascal. Has to suffer with awful FSR. These Turing-complete GPUs being squandered on inferior AMD techniques.Frankly, I don’t care if it’s open source. I care about availability and image quality.
I’m fine with Xess. The latest version (1.2) is more or less comparable to DLSS. The only downside is that it’s not as performant on Nvidia GPUs since it’s the DP4A version.
AgreedIsn't performance also poor on AMD HW?
I like XeSS because at least someone is competing with DLSS.
They’d be crazy to make it open source. I don’t see any tangible benefit to it being open source from a consumer perspective either.Call on Nvidia to make DLSS open source and we can all be happy. But you don't. Poor Pascal. Has to suffer with awful FSR. These Turing-complete GPUs being squandered on inferior AMD techniques.
If it was open source developers could replace their implementations of TAA with DLAA and it'd work everywhere. People could even run DLAA on old games on old cards using mods and they'd look better too. Tangible benefit to many gamers. It's really a simple lack of thought or maybe deeply ingrained corporate-profit-maximalism that blinds you. Open sourcing corporately-developed software is almost always better for consumers.They’d be crazy to make it open source. I don’t see any tangible benefit to it being open source from a consumer perspective either.
A lot of Radeon’s software is open source and it’s made no difference whatsoever. Their compute and gaming software stack are all pretty firmly in last place and most of it is open source.
I can't wait to argue in bad faith about how they're too busy and it's just sooo complicated to support more than 1 upscaler.
Yes - bring on the chaos.
It pisses off both Red and Green enthusiasts which is about 98% of dedicated GPU owners. Even though it's actually good enough for both of them anyway.
I’m still surprised he made that video claiming Arc is dead. That was a really dumb move.Damn, I guess AMD did not pay Intel enough to pay Ubisoft enough. Great proxy war idea though, original move. Next time they need to activate Robert Hallock and have Intel go the extra mile. /s
On a more serious note, Intel spending serious marketing money for their dGPU venture should put the final nail in MLID "Arc is canceled" narrative.
If you have an ARC card. Try playing Battlefield 1 with DX11 or DX12. ARC displays colors better than Nvidia. It just runs perfect. BF1 is a well optimized game. ARC still has issues. Someone described the Intel Arc Dashboard as the new guy at work. He's always busy doing something but at the end of the day he accomplishes absolutely nothing.
The Intel ARC dashboard does look really nice and clean. Who knows if the power numbers are accurate.
AMDs approach to open-source which semes to not really change fast enough is: We save money and let you do the work. This obviously doesn't work at all. You still need to invest resources, have a clear plan how and what to improve and so forth and only rely on the community to report and fix bugs and maybe add some interesting niche features.A lot of Radeon’s software is open source and it’s made no difference whatsoever. Their compute and gaming software stack are all pretty firmly in last place and most of it is open source.
Intel Graphics announced XeSS support for first Descendant.
XeSS love fest continues. Our sister site PC Gamer agrees it's better than FSR using Radeon in Cyberpunk 2077. https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-fsr-vs-xess/