Intel Penryn Performance Preview: The Fastest gets Faster

Borealis7

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Watch out, Intel is getting cocky. I hope they know what they're doing, or they could end up REALLY embarrassed!

AMD = Another Month Delay
 

Furen

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Affordable? I doubt anything other than XE parts will be coming out before Q4 this year so maybe Q2 next year for an "affordable" Penryn?
 

defiantsf

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Now if Intel really wants to put AMD out business, just sell Yorkfield at $266 LOL! But they don't actually. They just want AMD to be on life-support (i.e. token competition). AMD really pissed off the Hive this time.
 

SexyK

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Originally posted by: Borealis7
Watch out, Intel is getting cocky. I hope they know what they're doing, or they could end up REALLY embarrassed!

AMD = Another Month Delay

I'm not really seeing how Intel is going to be the one who is embarrassed in this. They are previewing a processor that is still months away while AMD can't even show one benchmark after months of promises of 40% faster this and 50% faster that. It's time for AMD to put up or shut up. Now they're screwed though, becuase even if Barcelona is 20% faster across the board, we already know Penryn will offer the same performance soon, except on a cooler 45nm process.
 

crimson117

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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/default.aspx

What's with this Intel Resource Center? Special sponsorship from Intel? (this is linked on the last page of the article, next to the "Home" link where the Next Page link usually appears)

I still trust these guys as reviewers, and I know they get parts sent for free and still maintain integrity in their reviews, but this seems a little too close for comfort.

The fact that it's linked directly from a Intel chip review is the shadiest part. Did Intel pay for that placement?

At first I thought it was just some convenient new category, because of the way the URL was set up as a subdirectory under cpuchipsets, and I figured there'd be one for AMD too and maybe even via, but swapping amd for intel in the url gave error 404: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/amd/default.aspx

I would think the url should at least be something like "ads.anandtech.com/intelresourcecenter" given that this is a "sponsored" (advertisment) page.
 

Moishe

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Well Anandtech does sell ads... and Intel is smart enough to buy ads to such a targeted audience. I don't expect Anandtech to turn down Intel's money because Intel products are on the page... I think you're being a little too paranoid.
 

Zim

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Looks like I won't be running out to buy a Penryn to replace my Conroe, with just a 5-10% improvement at any given speed. It will be interesting to see just how they overclock.
 

AnandThenMan

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Originally posted by: crimson117
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/default.aspx

What's with this Intel Resource Center? Special sponsorship from Intel? (this is linked on the last page of the article, next to the "Home" link where the Next Page link usually appears)

Hmmmm, that does seem a bit too close for comfort! I mean look at the "disclaimer" at the bottom. I don't ever remember seeing such a disclaimer on Anandtech before. I think we need an explanation here.

This site is an aggregation of content relating to Intel. Opinions expressed in any articles, stories or forum posts are the personal opinions of the original authors, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Intel. All Intel names and trademarks are the property of Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries. Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.

 

Zim

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Intel where claiming HERE a 40% performance improvement. Nothing like bending the facts a little!
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: Zim
Intel where claiming HERE a 40% performance improvement. Nothing like bending the facts a little!

You mean like the 101% increase in divx encoding?

Youre right, their marketing dept dropped the ball on that one way too low.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: AnandThenMan
Originally posted by: crimson117
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/default.aspx

What's with this Intel Resource Center? Special sponsorship from Intel? (this is linked on the last page of the article, next to the "Home" link where the Next Page link usually appears)

Hmmmm, that does seem a bit too close for comfort! I mean look at the "disclaimer" at the bottom. I don't ever remember seeing such a disclaimer on Anandtech before. I think we need an explanation here.

This site is an aggregation of content relating to Intel. Opinions expressed in any articles, stories or forum posts are the personal opinions of the original authors, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Intel. All Intel names and trademarks are the property of Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries. Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.

That disclaimer is most likely for people like you. Intel is very protective over anything that may be interpretted as an official statement from Intel. If any Intel employee makes opinions outside of work and is identified as an Intel employee, we're requested to make roughly the same disclaimer that anything we say is not necessarily the view of Intel blah blah blah...

Since there's an area that specifically sorts out the Intel news they want to make sure that people don't think that the opinions/reviews/articles are official statements from Intel etc...

 

AnandThenMan

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
Since there's an area that specifically sorts out the Intel news they want to make sure that people don't think that the opinions/reviews/articles are official statements from Intel etc...
Well if you look at the top of the page, the title says, This site is presented by Intel. So, the site is an Intel presentation, but the opinions etc. don't necessarily reflect that of Intel. Okay.

And I don't know what you mean when you say "people like you".

 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: AnandThenMan
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Since there's an area that specifically sorts out the Intel news they want to make sure that people don't think that the opinions/reviews/articles are official statements from Intel etc...
Well if you look at the top of the page, the title says, This site is presented by Intel. So, the site is an Intel presentation, but the opinions etc. don't necessarily reflect that of Intel. Okay.

And I don't know what you mean when you say "people like you".

People like you = people who may confuse Intel and the articles being presented.

 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: AnandThenMan
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Since there's an area that specifically sorts out the Intel news they want to make sure that people don't think that the opinions/reviews/articles are official statements from Intel etc...
Well if you look at the top of the page, the title says, This site is presented by Intel. So, the site is an Intel presentation, but the opinions etc. don't necessarily reflect that of Intel. Okay.

And I don't know what you mean when you say "people like you".

He probably meant people who search for things like that and take notice of something that probably is nothing.
 
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Something odd I noticed...

The Yorkfield-Kentsfield comparison looks correct.
In the CPU-only Test, Yorkfield scores 887 points more (4957 vs 4070)
In the Overall Test, Yorkfield scores 840 points more (11963 vs 11123)

But the Yorkfield-Wolfdale comparison looks weird...
In the CPU-only Test, Yorkfield scores 1896 points more than Wolfdale. (4957 vs 3061)
In the Overall Test, Yorkfield only scores 948 points more than Wolfdale. (11964 vs 11015)

I'm guessing the Wolfdale Overall Score should read 10015?

It's not just an Anandtech thing - the same numbers are repeated at other sites as well. (Hexus.net has the same numbers)
 

coldpower27

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This is the nice evolutionary improvements that were pretty much expected. I hope by shipping time the XE will be 3.66GHZ at 1.33GHZ FSB.
 

Hulk

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Originally posted by: defiantsf
Now if Intel really wants to put AMD out business, just sell Yorkfield at $266 LOL! But they don't actually. They just want AMD to be on life-support (i.e. token competition). AMD really pissed off the Hive this time.


That last bit about "pissing off the hive" is really funny!



 

imported_Questar

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
This is the nice evolutionary improvements that were pretty much expected. I hope by shipping time the XE will be 3.66GHZ at 1.33GHZ FSB.

Only Xeons are getting 1333 FSB.

 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Questar
Originally posted by: coldpower27
This is the nice evolutionary improvements that were pretty much expected. I hope by shipping time the XE will be 3.66GHZ at 1.33GHZ FSB.

Only Xeons are getting 1333 FSB.

Not necessarily there are already rumors of a QX6850 to go with the Bearlake chipsets and that processor has 1.33GHZ FSB. So I expect the next XE in line to get 1.33GHZ FSB as well. On the 45nm node there will be Xeons with 1.6GHZ FSB in DP let alone the already available 1.33GHZ in DP sector now.
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Questar
Originally posted by: coldpower27
This is the nice evolutionary improvements that were pretty much expected. I hope by shipping time the XE will be 3.66GHZ at 1.33GHZ FSB.

Only Xeons are getting 1333 FSB.

Not necessarily there are already rumors of a QX6850 to go with the Bearlake chipsets and that processor has 1.33GHZ FSB. So I expect the next XE in line to get 1.33GHZ FSB as well. On the 45nm node there will be Xeons with 1.6GHZ FSB in DP let alone the already available 1.33GHZ in DP sector now.

There doesn?t necessarily need to be a new chipset to accommodate the faster FSB speeds, the current 965P chipsets will support 1333FSB with just a BIOS update.
 
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