Israel: We Are At War

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amenx

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Anyone remember the chant "the whole world is watching" from the anti-Vietnam war protesters?

Student protests have spread around the world.

Canada: McGill University, Concordia University

France: Paris Institute of Political Studies (Sciences Po), Sorbonne University

Italy: Sapienza University

UK: Leeds University, University College London, Warwick University

United States: American University, Arizona State University, California State Polytechnic University, Columbia College Chicago, Columbia University, Cornell University, Drexel University, Emerson College, Emory University, Fashion Institute of Technology, Georgetown University, Humboldt, Indiana University Bloomington, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Michigan State University East Lansing Campus, Morehouse College, New York University, Ohio State University, Rice University, Roosevelt University, School of the Art Institute of Chicago, Stanford University, Swarthmore College, Temple University, The City College of New York, The New School, Tufts University, University of California Berkeley, University of California Los Angeles, University of Chicago, University of Colorado, University of Connecticut, University of Maryland Baltimore County, University of Michigan Ann Arbor, University of Minnesota, University of New Mexico, University of North Carolina Charlotte, University of Pennsylvania, University of Pittsburgh, University of Southern California in Los Angeles, University of Texas Arlington, University of Texas Austin, University of Texas Dallas, University of Texas San Antonio, Vanderbilt University, Virginia Tech, Washington University, Yale University and George Washington University

And even to Tokyo University in Japan.


 

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Student protesters have taken over Hamilton Hall at Columbia U and renamed it Hind's Hall in honor of the 6 year old Palestinian girl who was desperately calling for help on a phone after her family's vehicle was hit by the IDF on a 'safe route' authorized by the IDF last January. Paramedics called the IDF to notify them of Hind and they got permission from them to go rescue her. As they got to her, the IDF blew them all up.

 
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Hope this continues to snowball..

Attorneys inside and outside the administration urge Biden to cut off arms to Israel

So far more than 90 lawyers have signed on to a legal letter alleging Israel’s conduct in Gaza violates U.S. and international law.

A coalition of lawyers domestic and abroad — including at least 20 that work in the Biden administration — are calling on President Joe Biden to halt military aid to Israel, arguing that its actions in Gaza do not comply with U.S. and international humanitarian law.

They plan to send a letter arguing their case to Attorney General Merrick Garland and general counsels across the administration in the coming days. In the letter, obtained by POLITICO, the lawyers contend that Israel likely violated U.S. statutes including the Arms Export Control Act and Leahy Laws as well as the Geneva Conventions prohibiting disproportionate attacks on civilian populations...

 
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Hope this continues to snowball..

Attorneys inside and outside the administration urge Biden to cut off arms to Israel

So far more than 90 lawyers have signed on to a legal letter alleging Israel’s conduct in Gaza violates U.S. and international law.

A coalition of lawyers domestic and abroad — including at least 20 that work in the Biden administration — are calling on President Joe Biden to halt military aid to Israel, arguing that its actions in Gaza do not comply with U.S. and international humanitarian law.

They plan to send a letter arguing their case to Attorney General Merrick Garland and general counsels across the administration in the coming days. In the letter, obtained by POLITICO, the lawyers contend that Israel likely violated U.S. statutes including the Arms Export Control Act and Leahy Laws as well as the Geneva Conventions prohibiting disproportionate attacks on civilian populations...

It would be nice if they followed their own laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law
 
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I guess she is basing it off of UN reports. But as to how many were tied among the bodies is unknown.


The report is a week old and the body count has risen I believe.

Thanks.

Once upon a time, I remember when people used to talk about political "slippery slope" situations like they were plausible hypotheticals. These days, particularly with regard to Israel vs Palestine, given how I already knew how the IDF had been forcing Palestinians to strip and transporting them in that state, those people ending up dead in a ditch doesn't seem so much like a plausible hypothetical situation, more like a completely expected outcome.

I wonder if the IDF will have made time to sexually violate / torture their victims (a la "accuse your opponent of the crimes you're guilty of") or whether they're having too much fun with random slaughter and demolition.
 

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Thanks.

Once upon a time, I remember when people used to talk about political "slippery slope" situations like they were plausible hypotheticals. These days, particularly with regard to Israel vs Palestine, given how I already knew how the IDF had been forcing Palestinians to strip and transporting them in that state, those people ending up dead in a ditch doesn't seem so much like a plausible hypothetical situation, more like a completely expected outcome.

I wonder if the IDF will have made time to sexually violate / torture their victims (a la "accuse your opponent of the crimes you're guilty of") or whether they're having too much fun with random slaughter and demolition.
Forgot to post this yesterday.

A man with his hands bound urged a Gaza hospital to evacuate. Hours later, he was shot dead.

TEL AVIV — Dressed in a white hazmat suit, his hands bound with plastic cable ties and a yellow cloth tied around his head, Jamal Aldin Muhammed Jamal Abu Al-Ola’s appearance surprised onlookers when he walked into the Nasser Hospital complex in the Gazan city of Khan Younis.

Allegedly dispatched as a messenger by the Israeli military, which was conducting operations around the hospital, he was filmed several times as he walked around the facility and inside the hospital where thousands of people had sought shelter from Israeli bombardment. Several witnesses told NBC News he warned people to evacuate the area.

Less than two hours later, he was shot dead.

Within hours, a video of the 25-year-old sharing his message to evacuate ricocheted around the internet, quickly going viral before garnering attention from several mainstream media outlets...

 

Pohemi

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Bibi giving Putin a run for his money for biggest shithead on the world stage. Israel's reactionary bluster and threats have been something to behold. It isn't new, but never seen such stark denial of reality and strong projection from Israel. It's like they went MAGA-style.

Israel has become a monstrosity of a nation.

They really have. That's what happens when there's a monster in charge and other monsters helping him.
 
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Israel has become a monstrosity of a nation.
You can look at dozens of other countries that have gone the same route. Totalitarian policies and genocide waged against a people who then do the same when they get power. Germans with Jewish people. Various colonial powers against Cambodia. Half of African, Central, and Southern American countries just to generally point at close to a quarter of the planet in just the last 100 years or so. Hell, take a look at the French Revolution and what happened there, and that was close to 250 years ago and entirely French on French.

Hurt people, hurt people. And it usually ends up with various forms of genocide, because systematic dehumanization of an out-group almost always leads to murdering that out-group to "protect" the in-group.

And anyone who doesn't see that coming here in the US if the right-wing fascists gain the power they want are delusional. It'll be immigrants first because we've already separated families and put children in cages. After that it'll be trans people. And if they can totally enact their full power, themselves eventually. It's just a lot of dead innocent people in the meantime.

It's also why I support the second amendment. It isn't about defending yourself against a platoon of US infantry with mechanized backup and signal ops. It's about defending yourself and your community against the KhakiShirts roving around murdering nice polite liberals in their sleep under color of law.

Just kidding! It can't happen here, I know I know, everything is great, the right-wing authoritarian fever has almost run its course, and DemographicDestiny™ will ensure that y'all can just post on forums about your disgust with open fascism without ever needing to be prepared to actually defend yourselves in reality because a progressive supermajority is just right around the corner, along with flying cars and Chinese Democracy.
 
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Who is defining what constitutes anti-semitism? Bibi?

Are they going to jail people in the U.S. for pointing out Israel's genocide? Because Israel is already calling that anti-semitism, of course.

Can't say anything unsavory about Jews, but hey look at that ni**er over here! SMH
 
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Sangita Myska out from LBC. She had given an Israeli spokesman a tough grilling and Zio-enforcers swooped in. Her replacement, Vanessa Feltz is a dedicated Zionist.


LBC host Sangita Myska has left the station two weeks after coming off air in opaque circumstances following a fiery clash with an Israeli government spokesperson over its military action in Gaza.
 
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Thanks.

Once upon a time, I remember when people used to talk about political "slippery slope" situations like they were plausible hypotheticals. These days, particularly with regard to Israel vs Palestine, given how I already knew how the IDF had been forcing Palestinians to strip and transporting them in that state, those people ending up dead in a ditch doesn't seem so much like a plausible hypothetical situation, more like a completely expected outcome.

I wonder if the IDF will have made time to sexually violate / torture their victims (a la "accuse your opponent of the crimes you're guilty of") or whether they're having too much fun with random slaughter and demolition.

In that vein, I'm really starting to wonder if the "babies in the oven" claims isn't them raping Palestinians to cause pregnancy so they can then murder the babies "in the oven" as a sign of how much they can subjugate Palestinians with impunity.

Who is defining what constitutes anti-semitism? Bibi?

Are they going to jail people in the U.S. for pointing out Israel's genocide? Because Israel is already calling that anti-semitism, of course.

Can't say anything unsavory about Jews, but hey look at that ni**er over here! SMH

As a sign of how insane the entire situation is, it'll be the people that are openly anti-Semitic, talking about Jewish cabals controlling banks and media and making space lasers.
 
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Turkey is apparently cutting off all trade with Israel.

most likely doesn't stop the flow of oil/gas from Azerbaijan but anything is a step up
 

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One thing that disgusts me is that the MSM has mostly stopped calling the conflict the Israel-Gaza war and now call it the Israel-Hamas war. Blatant attempt to shield Israel from the genocidal connotations of the previous term in favor of the more specific 'our war is only against Hamas' term.

This seems to have started with the student protests where the term implicitly frames students as Hamas supporters.

By and large Israel dictates to the MSM the terminology to use.
 

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Erdogan must not have liked the recent election results (his party did not do well)

Right on point, his followers were organizing bogus protests against Starbucks etc. saying "Do not serve Zionists, do not give them your money"

However, a journalist found out that big AKP (Erdogan's party) supporting businessmen were trading with Israel like there was no tomorrow, even they were selling jet-fuel. When this news came out one of the more pious parties (YRP) used it extensively during the campaign and took almost 5% of the votes, straight from Erdogan's AKP.

Now Erdogan learned that you can't eat the cake and keep it whole too. He really has to act more direct, he is sorry to hurt Netanyahu, his secret best friend
 
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