Stop buying music and movies!

imported_dgingeri

Junior Member
Nov 17, 2004
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I need to get this out to as wide an audience as I can:

Stop buying music and movies until the movie and music studios stop suing innocent people and stop suing to stop innovation.

Recently, the MPAA has sued to stop the RealDVD program from being sold, claiming it can be used to pirate movies. This is simply not true. It leaves the DVD encryption in place and actually increases security of the movie copied locally by putting all of them into a monolithic library file that is also encrypted. The real motivation of the movie studios is to continue to restrict how you can watch your movies.

They have continually sued people to eliminate the ability to save movies locally so that law abiding people can't just have a library of movies they have paid for on their computers so that they don't have to endanger their DVD's. This forces overuse of the DVD's people buy, causing them to become damaged over time, and forcing people to have to buy them over and over again. This is money the movie studios don't even come close to deserving.

When DVD's were first under development, they had a caddy around them to protect it from damage, but the movie studios pushed to have that removed, making the disks vulnerable to being damaged when taken out of the package.

In the new HD formats, they fought to have restricted viewing on the disks, so that once purchased, they could only be viewed a certain number of times before they become useless. People pushed back, and the studios relented, but they haven't given up on this. are still fighting to restrict our rights on how many times we can play back movies, and the music industry is following suit.

They have also been inflating their numbers on how much piracy is affecting them. They know that most people who are pirating their music and movies wouldn't buy them anyway, but they still claim the lost sales, even though they aren't lost at all. They still claim huge numbers on who is pirating, even though they know the real numbers are maybe 1/10 they claim. They also claim their lack of growth of sales is due to piracy, even though they know full well that the lost sales is due to the lack of quality of their recently released music and movies. They know they make crap, but they want more excuses, more justification, to sue people and stifle innovation.

I say stop buying movies and music so that they might begin to understand that it is the consumer that has the power here. Show them that they can't continue to rob us. Show them that they stay in business on our permission, not the other way around.

Don't buy The Dark Knight when it comes out. Show them just how much we can affect their sales! We can get them under rein. We can keep our rights to watch movies and listen to music how WE want to, not how they give us permission to.

Tell them to stop suing and robbing their customers by not buying their products until they stop this garbage.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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You increase your postcount of 4 years by 50% for this?

Should've stayed under the bridge.
 

imported_dgingeri

Junior Member
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
You increase your postcount of 4 years by 50% for this?

Should've stayed under the bridge.

That's because I normally don't post here. I'm just trying to get the word out to try to stop the studios. I'm just flat out sick of them.
 

sivart

Golden Member
Oct 20, 2000
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old news, you don't own the movie anyway. If they have their ways, you will pay each time you want to view the movie you've purchased (I.e. BD-Live aka Profile 2.0)
 

imported_dgingeri

Junior Member
Nov 17, 2004
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I went and saw all three of the Lord of the Rings movies at least 3 times in the theaters, and bought botht he regular and director's cuts of them on DVD. I went and saw Iron Man and The dark Knight 3 times in the theaters as well. I bought the Iron Man DVD the day it came out. I have a collection of over 200 movie DVD's and even more TV DVD's.

I pay my tribute to movies, music, and TV shows I enjoy and support. I don't pirate anything.

Yet, they still want to rip me off. They still threaten to sue me. I want them stopped. I pirated nothing, I shared nothing, yet I'm still going to have to pay for a blood sucking lawyer, and likely will have to pay them something for doing nothing.

They claim my IP address was used to share music. They claim I shared out over a dozen Rap song, yet I hate Rap and listen to Country. They don't care about accuracy. Anyone with an Internet connection is vulnerable.
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
Nov 12, 2004
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Sounds like your sour because you got caught unknowingly sharing some songs?

If I ever found a product too restrictive...I would not support it. As of now, I am happy with the amount of freedom I have with the products I support. I have not purchased any songs off iTunes instead I support Amazon because I find iTunes too restrictive. Blu-ray is just fine for me in terms of DRM at this point. I've heard some issues with software on computers but that's about it.

And I highly doubt the reason they didn't put protective covers around DVD's was so that your discs would scratch up faster. Try cost savings and compatibility.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
13,518
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Originally posted by: dgingeri
Recently, the MPAA has sued to stop the RealDVD program from being sold, claiming it can be used to pirate movies. This is simply not true. It leaves the DVD encryption in place and actually increases security of the movie copied locally by putting all of them into a monolithic library file that is also encrypted. The real motivation of the movie studios is to continue to restrict how you can watch your movies.

They have continually sued people to eliminate the ability to save movies locally so that law abiding people can't just have a library of movies they have paid for on their computers so that they don't have to endanger their DVD's. This forces overuse of the DVD's people buy, causing them to become damaged over time, and forcing people to have to buy them over and over again. This is money the movie studios don't even come close to deserving.

When DVD's were first under development, they had a caddy around them to protect it from damage, but the movie studios pushed to have that removed, making the disks vulnerable to being damaged when taken out of the package.

In the new HD formats, they fought to have restricted viewing on the disks, so that once purchased, they could only be viewed a certain number of times before they become useless. People pushed back, and the studios relented, but they haven't given up on this. are still fighting to restrict our rights on how many times we can play back movies, and the music industry is following suit.

How can you claim to be concerned when you don't even care about truth? Or for that matter, how can one care about you when you peddle bullshit?

(1) studios restrict the copying the movies, not the playback. They sell you a dvd and you put it in a dvd player. This isn't rocket surgery.
(2) cartridges were removed because consumer studies showed people would not buy them. If you have a problem with scratches, that's your own fault. I have no problem.
(3) there are no restrictions on number of viewings of the HD formats. Never has been, never will be. You've even got a user above believing this is what Profile 2.0 is - sorry, not even close.
 

sivart

Golden Member
Oct 20, 2000
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Never say never, BD 2.0 allows you to run a virtual machine on the Blu-ray player. Anything is possible when you go this far. From buying movie accessories to charging to watch locked features on the disc.
 

erwos

Diamond Member
Apr 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
(2) cartridges were removed because consumer studies showed people would not buy them. If you have a problem with scratches, that's your own fault. I have no problem.
So true. My family owns a cartridge-using CD drive - one of the first to come out. It was an insane PITA to use. Keeping your optical discs in good condition is not rocket science, nor is it hard to do. I have _never_ lost a disc to scratches.
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
Nov 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: sivart
Never say never, BD 2.0 allows you to run a virtual machine on the Blu-ray player. Anything is possible when you go this far. From buying movie accessories to charging to watch locked features on the disc.

So because something is possible you are saying that's the purpose?
 

Reel

Diamond Member
Jul 14, 2001
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RealPlayer ... buffering ... is ... buffering ... still ... buffering ... around?
 

sivart

Golden Member
Oct 20, 2000
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With money hungry companies, yes, but they won't admit it.

Remember when cable TV had no commercials....because you were paying for it.

...or who knows, maybe BD-J goes the same way of multiple angles on DVD. It's there and is used in the first couple of years and then is forgotten about
 
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