Thanks Biden! No More Noncompete Agreements

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hal2kilo

Lifer
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No link I read it yesterday.
Also eligibility for overtime work has expanded.
Thanks Biden!

Edit here:

It's still crap. At least I got paid at regular time for working overtime, being salaried toward the end, but looking back, I wish I had that time back for myself.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Jun 18, 2001
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NCAs were actually a great idea to help protect companies from employees who sold their loyalty to the highest bidder.

I guess they will have to devise another method of protection.
Wait, isn't that the purpose of gaining experience, and bettering your skill set, so you can better yourself, and get a better paying job? I really want to know what company's junk you have in your mouth, to believe that companies should be protected at the expense of people making a better life for themselves.

Yes, I know I am a bit late to the discussion, but all NCA's do is stiffle competition, prevent inovation, allow companies to abuse, control, and underpay their staff. Which keeps wages stagnet, as well as hender employment oportunities for many people, and in the long run, hurts not only our workforce, but this country as a whole.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Wait, isn't that the purpose of gaining experience, and bettering your skill set, so you can better yourself, and get a better paying job? I really want to know what company's junk you have in your mouth, to believe that companies should be protected at the expense of people making a better life for themselves.

Yes, I know I am a bit late to the discussion, but all NCA's do is stiffle competition, prevent inovation, allow companies to abuse, control, and underpay their staff. Which keeps wages stagnet, as well as hender employment oportunities for many people, and in the long run, hurts not only our workforce, but this country as a whole.
but you see, if we work hard enough, the almighty employer will reward us!
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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NCAs were actually a great idea to help protect companies from employees who sold their loyalty to the highest bidder.

I guess they will have to devise another method of protection.
So employees who enjoyed being capitalists is a burden to capitalists? Lulz
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Reward? You will be rewarded with Diversity in problems to solve, Equity in the company through stock grants and Inclusion in the weekly payroll.

And if another company values you more, oh well. Sorry you don’t like capitalism.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Something like 99% of NCAs are illegal in California, been that way since 1872. Today, California has a GSP of $3.89 trillion, making it the 5th largest economy in the world. Not trying to prove causation by correlation, just saying NCAs are in no way a critical ingredient for economic growth and prosperity.

NCAs are a niche tool pushed way too far to become wage suppression, plain and simple. It's good news that other states are waking up on this. Soon I expect we'll only see them in certain red states still very hostile to workers rights (Tennessee, North Carolina, Alabama, Texas and Florida most noteably)

Still can't believe Florida just banned heat protections for outdoor workers in extreme heat. Sorry Miguel, your fair odds of dying from heat stroke just aren't as important as De Santis donors not wanting to pay money for things that might affect productivity and timetables. Florida will just have to lose some people come July and August I guess. Some heartless shit.
 
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Reward? You will be rewarded with Diversity in problems to solve, Equity in the company through stock grants and Inclusion in the weekly payroll.
Get a load of this chump.

Many companies don't have stock grants, and inclusion in weekly payroll is called being a fucking employee. It's not a reward, it's a business transaction: human labor for money.
 
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Something like 99% of NCAs are illegal in California, been that way since 1872. Today, California has a GSP of $3.89 trillion, making it the 5th largest economy in the world. Not trying to prove causation by correlation, just saying NCAs are in no way a critical ingredient for economic growth and prosperity.

NCAs are a niche tool pushed way too far to become wage suppression, plain and simple. It's good news that other states are waking up on this. Soon I expect we'll only see them in certain red states still very hostile to workers rights (Tennessee, North Carolina, Alabama, Texas and Florida most noteably)

Still can't believe Florida just banned heat protections for outdoor workers in extreme heat. Sorry Miguel, your fair odds of dying from heat stroke just aren't as important as De Santis donors not wanting to pay money for things that might affect productivity and timetables. Florida will just have to lose some people come July and August I guess. Some heartless shit.
Pretty much this. While I can see there being certain employees where this makes sense, businesses have done what businesses do taken it to the extreme simply because it’s easy and they are doing what their competitors are doing. Likely no reason for the overwhelming majority of people covered by these agreements to have them and I suspect in the majority of court cases they’d be void for being too restrictive thus why companies never enforce these agreements. Better to have someone break this chain of uselessness.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Get a load of this chump.

Many companies don't have stock grants, and inclusion in weekly payroll is called being a fucking employee. It's not a reward, it's a business transaction: human labor for money.
That's the kind of DEI we can all get behind. Not sure what else you want. 🤔
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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That's the kind of DEI we can all get behind. Not sure what else you want. 🤔


How about put your ball of DEI straw down and tell us how California managed that kind of success without the "protection" you think NCAs are.

How did all those poor vulnerable companies thrive given all the horrible risk posed by workers basic rights?
 

kage69

Lifer
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Here's a pdf from the GAO with some study references regarding NCAs.

Cliffs: NCAs show mixed results when used for executives. Studies show it reduces job mobility even when not legally enforceable. With stronger NCA enforcement, wages go down. With it's use limited, wages go up.
 
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