Question [Videocardz] Threadripper Pro specs

[jpiniero]

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Threadripper PRO means business. AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO specifications leaked AMD is launching four Ryzen Threadripper PRO processors featuring Zen2 architecture. As explained by AMD, the PRO series are designed for: professional studios, designers, engineers and data scientists, while the...

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12/16/32/64 core models. Frequency is slightly lower than Threadripper, but you do get 8 channel memory and 128 4.0 lanes.

 

[nicalandia]

Perhaps that was a stepping stone to Threadripper Pro.

Perhaps, but the 16C/32T 7F52 has 256MB of L3 Cache. So I think they are on a different segments

 

[zir_blazer]

AMD’s New EPYC 7F52 Reviewed: The F is for ᴴᴵᴳᴴ Frequency

These EPYC parts aren't price competitive with Xeon W parts and still lack high enough ST Turbo. Also remember that Intel released Xeon W models based on the Scalable Skylake platform instead of LGA 2066, which may explain why AMD decided to go with the full 8 channels.
I'm curious about the TR Pro price since if AMD didn't nerfed it enough compared to standard EPYC it could cannibalize the P Single Processor parts. I'm wondering whenever the 16C price is acceptable enough as an alternative to AM4 Ryzen 3950X, since you're not losing a full GHz like against price comparable EPYC 7282, which I eyed a year ago or so:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cp049e

 

[soresu]

How many workstations from the major OEMs did Threadripper find its way into?

None.

That's why these pro parts are important. Without them AMD had nothing to offer to the market targeted by things such as Mac Pros.

Mac Pro's are not exactly the best example to use there.

The current one tops out at 28 cores.

28 cores! Well blow me sideways what a corker, lets all rush out and buy them for our multi threaded work!

 

[soresu]

I can't even get more than 2 USB ports on the IO plate, none on the front panel for EPYC boards.

I'd honestly be more surprised to find it otherwise with Epyc.

Clearly I'm no expert on server racks but I was never under the impression that they were big on external IO with the obvious exception of network interfaces.

The existence of TR already means that there is an outlet for customers that desire server CPU hardware with consumer external IO density and choice - so it would seem redundant for server board manufacturers to go out of their way to accommodate such desires too.

 

[Markfw]

I'd honestly be more surprised to find it otherwise with Epyc.

Clearly I'm no expert on server racks but I was never under the impression that they were big on external IO with the obvious exception of network interfaces.

The existence of TR already means that there is an outlet for customers that desire server CPU hardware with consumer external IO density and choice - so it would seem redundant for server board manufacturers to go out of their way to accommodate such desires too.

I got a bunch of EPYC systems when they had some good prices on ebay. $1100 for a retail 7452, $850 for 2 retail 7601's, $1000 for a 7742 ES, $1750 for a 7742 ES, and lastly $300 for a 7551 ES. For my DC work, all those cores are great. I don't really need a bunch of USB ports, just 4 would be nice.

 

[eek2121]

I got a bunch of EPYC systems when they had some good prices on ebay. $1100 for a retail 7452, $850 for 2 retail 7601's, $1000 for a 7742 ES, $1750 for a 7742 ES, and lastly $300 for a 7551 ES. For my DC work, all those cores are great. I don't really need a bunch of USB ports, just 4 would be nice.

Nice, a 1950X and my 3900X are about all I can stand in my office. Moving to a new place soon because t he AC in this place is not adequate for cooling this room even with no PC, much less two...

I can't wait for the day we find dirt cheap 128 core/256 thread EPYC servers on eBay!

 

[jpiniero]

Now official, looks like it's an OEM only product with Lenovo getting the first dibs.

 

[Atari2600]

Now official, looks like it's an OEM only product with Lenovo getting the first dibs.

The envisaged users of these machines won't be cobbling them together off newegg.

Its fair enough, they need to be validated and have long term support. AMD have to concern themselves with tarnishing their image in a professional environment.


The 3975WX looks a perfect CPU for a CFD workstation. Could definitely feed at least 24 cores off 8 channels of DDR4 3200, possibly even all 32 cores without bandwidth starving (workload dependent obviously).

 

[jamescox]

If that leak is correct (and it does look so) AMD missed the chance to name these parts Epyc Workstation instead.

I think AMD doesn’t want to dilute their Epyc HPC/server brand name at all. They could have come up with a completely different name, but ThreadRipper seems like it already has a good brand recognition even if it isn’t quite suitable as a workstation brand name. Most TR processors are probably sold through the DIY market and some boutique builders. Falcon Northwest has ThreadRipper systems. The TR pro parts will be sold by major OEMs. An actual pro workstation needs to have ECC memory support and, many places, they need management systems like IPMI and other features.

I thought I saw something about TR pro being limited to one module per channel, so memory may still be limited compared to Epyc. The price gets very high if you have to use larger modules. If it is limited to 8 slots, then most systems will probably still have 256 GB (8x32GB modules) since the price goes up very quickly for 64 and 128 GB modules. I don’t know if 256 GB modules are available yet, but you wouldn’t want to pay for them anyway. You can get higher clocked Epyc parts now. Some of the low core count Epyc processors are around 3 GHz and they have the new 7Fxx processors with higher clocks (3.2 to 3.7 GHz base) and large per core L3. Some dual Epyc boards have 32 memory slots. You can get 1 TB of memory using cheaper 32 GB modules. With such large memory systems, the price of memory often dominates. You would need 128 GB modules to get 1 TB with 8 slots.

 

[jamescox]

Perhaps that was a stepping stone to Threadripper Pro.

They seem to just be getting higher yield of high clock parts, so they have 7Fxx Epyc, ThreadRipper variants, and the new XT parts.

 

[jamescox]

AMD’s New EPYC 7F52 Reviewed: The F is for ᴴᴵᴳᴴ Frequency

AMD’s New EPYC 7F52 Reviewed: The F is for ᴴᴵᴳᴴ Frequency

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It would be great to get some of these but the motherboard configurations available from manufactures may still be a bit limited. I was looking at Supermicro servers. They have a new Rome based server that is dual socket with 32 memory slots, but it comes with 4 A100 GPUs connected with NVLINK. I was looking for a 1U, preferably with dual sockets, and 2 pci express slots for pci GPUs. I don’t need the NVLINK; that is probably very expensive for a feature that I don’t need. They do have a 4U 8 GPU server, but it may be difficult to get sufficient memory for 8 GPUs in a single machine. Two TB would be doable with 64 GB modules. Going up to 128 GB modules is probably too expensive.

 

[scannall]

It would be great to get some of these but the motherboard configurations available from manufactures may still be a bit limited. I was looking at Supermicro servers. They have a new Rome based server that is dual socket with 32 memory slots, but it comes with 4 A100 GPUs connected with NVLINK. I was looking for a 1U, preferably with dual sockets, and 2 pci express slots for pci GPUs. I don’t need the NVLINK; that is probably very expensive for a feature that I don’t need. They do have a 4U 8 GPU server, but it may be difficult to get sufficient memory for 8 GPUs in a single machine. Two TB would be doable with 64 GB modules. Going up to 128 GB modules is probably too expensive.

Here is a 1U, 2 socket Epyc server.