Whatever happened to the moderator discussions sub-forum? It is invisible to me for some reason.

Shmee

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Strange, not sure. When did you notice this first happened? Try logging out and back in?
 

VirtualLarry

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No, it does not, says that "Oops, there's been an error". "You do not have permission to access that link"

Oops! We ran into some problems.​











You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.
 

CParsons

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Strange, not sure. When did you notice this first happened? Try logging out and back in?
Was this supposed to be a public forum? I can fix it if it was.. no one has mentioned it to me personally though yet to fix it lol. Judging from the posts in there it was, so I've fixed it. Let me know if it's all good now.
 

esquared

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Was this supposed to be a public forum? I can fix it if it was.. no one has mentioned it to me personally though yet to fix it lol. Judging from the posts in there it was, so I've fixed it. Let me know if it's all good now.
Not public per se.
Public individually by a member who created a thread in there. The member could only see the thread they created and no one else's.
It was a method devised to a vacationed-by-infraction member, could contest their vacation directly to the moderators, as well as speak to a Moderator privately without being able to be viewed by the rest of the membership.

It never worked correctly. Now anyone could create a thread in Moderator discussion forum to converse with a mod(s) but when a person was vacationed, they lost access to the Moderator discussions forum. They could make a thread but could not read any replies from the mods.
 

VirtualLarry

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Oh, Jesus. Moderator Discussions was NOT a pubic forum, but users had access to 1) Create threads, and reply to threads, that that paticular user only, as well as the moderation staff, could read and reply to.
 

esquared

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Yeah @CParsons . If you've actually made it public site-wise, please go back and make it not-public.

It's not meant for everyone to see.
 

CParsons

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Yeah @CParsons . If you've actually made it public site-wise, please go back and make it not-public.

It's not meant for everyone to see.

Well, none of that makes sense to me. Perhaps "Public" wasn't the right word. It wasn't available to EVERYONE, just if they had the permissions to view it, guessing that's how it was before since nothing was changed permission wise. But I hid it again until we can sort out however it's supposed to be.
 

esquared

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Oh, Jesus. Moderator Discussions was NOT a pubic forum, but users had access to 1) Create threads, and reply to threads, that that paticular user only, as well as the moderation staff, could read and reply to.

Well, none of that makes sense to me. Perhaps "Public" wasn't the right word. It wasn't available to EVERYONE, just if they had the permissions to view it. But I hid it again until we can sort out however it's supposed to be.
I explained two posts up.
Anyone can create an MD thread, but only the person that creates the thread can see it.
It's really for getting one on one personal time with a mod without anyone else reading what they are talking about.
 
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CParsons

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I explained two posts up.
Anyone can create an MD thread, but only the person that creates the thread can see it.
It's really for getting one on one personal time with a mod without anyone else reading what they are talking about.
Right, but I'm trying to understand how if nothing changed with it why some folks who (apparently?) could see it before can now no longer see it. Not a single thing has changed with regards to permissions in that section. That said, if it never worked right before anyway, happy to just leave it be.
 

esquared

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Right, but I'm trying to understand how if nothing changed with it why some folks who (apparently?) could see it before can now no longer see it. Not a single thing has changed with regards to permissions in that section. That said, if it never worked right before anyway, happy to just leave it be.
I think that the last forum-wide update FUBARed
the MD forum.
Look at my post #7 and Larry's post #8.
 

CParsons

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I think that the last forum-wide update FUBARed
the MD forum.
Look at my post #7 and Larry's post #8.
Yeah, there's a lot of usergroups set up in there, all with different permissions. Although nothing has changed, one of the permissions is overriding. You and Larry, by all accounts, should be able to view it but the FST usergroup you're in is not allowing it despite it being allowed. I'll have to dig in more.
 

esquared

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All mods can see the contents of MD forum and can technically respond to any thread.

We mods, we see nothing wrong.
But in addition to the members now not having access there was always a problem that was never fixed.
The MD forum was a place where a vacationed member could plead their case with the mods.
But an unwanted side effect of them being on vacation was they couldn't see any replies that any mod made in their MD thread. They could create the thread while on vacation but could not see/read any mod replies.

Read through some of the threads and they are littered with examples of vacationed members not being able to reply
 

CParsons

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Dec 4, 2019
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All mods can see the contents of MD forum and can technically respond to any thread.

We mods, we see nothing wrong.
But in addition to the members now not having access there was always a problem that was never fixed.
The MD forum was a place where a vacationed member could plead their case with the mods.
But an unwanted side effect of them being on vacation was they couldn't see any replies that any mod made in their MD thread. They could create the thread while on vacation but could not see/read any mod replies.

Read through some of the threads and they are littered with examples of vacationed members not being able to reply
No doubt, it's a lot of organization to make it all work and even one off permission can mess everything up. I'll try and sort it out, it'll require setting up another account and testing each and every permission, so needless to say it won't get addressed today but I'll see what I can do now that I have better understanding of the intent / how it's supposed to work.
 

esquared

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It may not be possible to have that feature to vacationed members.
All in all it wasn't a bad idea for MD forums existence.
Mod callouts in public are an infraction.
MD allows member to vent their concerns privately without fear of mod retribution and it has proved useful.
The forum guidelines/rules in the forum issues actually direct members with issues to make a thread in MD with concerns. It would be good to have that part working again.

Numbers 8 & 12
 

allisolm

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One thing that used to be available before the upgrade was a list of all the forums in the left hand collapsible column. That has been replaced by Trending, Find Threads, your threads, threads with your posts, etc. leaving only the list of forums in the middle. The mods can see the Moderator Discussions forum in the middle portion of the page under Moderation Resources but none of the Moderation Resources forums are visible to the membership at large, so there is no place the members can even see the Moderator Discussion forum (that I know of) to click on it to post, and since the links to it in the Forum Rules section don't seem to work (see posts 7&8 above), there is no way for them to access it at all.
 
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