Question Which Super cheap SSD/NVMe drives?

jamesdsimone

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Looking to add SSD/NVMe boot drives to some super budget builds. There are some 1TB drives for less than 50 but not sure about them. I'm not at all concerned about top performance, any of them will be a lot faster than 7200 drives, just reliablity. They are probably all made in the same factory in China and then labeled differently.




 

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I am not sure I would trust them, but maybe check warranty terms, especially if that is a concern for you. There should be plenty of other choices from brands with good warranty support, all around that price range.
 

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That WD Blue Deal isn't bad, but be wary of 3rd party sellers, such as with the last link.
 
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Looking to add SSD/NVMe boot drives to some super budget builds. There are some 1TB drives for less than 50 but not sure about them. I'm not at all concerned about top performance, any of them will be a lot faster than 7200 drives, just reliablity. They are probably all made in the same factory in China and then labeled differently.





I feel that I should warn you that you're basing your strategy on a baseless opinion that could end up blowing up in your face if/when these drives malfunction/fail prematurely.

Computers are made up of a bunch of components that everything else in the computer relies on for the correct end result. However, the storage system's job adds an extra facet to how badly things can go wrong because there's the software configuration as well as user data to consider.
 
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I feel that I should warn you that you're basing your strategy on a baseless opinion that could end up blowing up in your face if/when these drives malfunction/fail prematurely.

Computers are made up of a bunch of components that everything else in the computer relies on for the correct end result. However, the storage system's job adds an extra facet to how badly things can go wrong because there's the software configuration as well as user data to consider.
This would be going into completely non critical system. A crash would be a minor annoyance at worst.
 

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How important is dram? I know it gives faster performance but is the difference in reliability that much better?
 

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How important is dram? I know it gives faster performance but is the difference in reliability that much better?
My experience with DRAM-less SSDs is that if you give them a sustained amount of work to do (e.g. copying user data from old PC to new one), write performance goes through the floor after a while but also system responsiveness becomes as bad as if one is using a HDD to boot with.

I personally rule out DRAM-less SSDs completely.
 
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My experience with DRAM-less SSDs is that if you give them a sustained amount of work to do (e.g. copying user data from old PC to new one), write performance goes through the floor after a while but also system responsiveness becomes as bad as if one is using a HDD to boot with.

I personally rule out DRAM-less SSDs completely.
This is for a secondary machine so speed is not that important. Data transfers can run unattended. I just want reasonable boot times and be able to stream video and play mp4's mostly over my network. And I am going to make it into my dedicated transcoding machine.
 

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I'd avoid no-name brands with unknown RMA reliability, but I wouldn't rule out lesser spec NVMe for true "super budget" builds. I actually run a low end SSD on my daily driver laptop and it's fine. Since the initial cloning, I don't do any bulk sustained writes and I don't notice any performance cliff. It's an Inland QN322, which is rebadged of some known budget drive (PNY IIRC). When I bought it in fall 2022, it was way cheaper than a top tier drive and it was an impulse Black Friday purchase.

So no, I wouldn't rule out DRAM-less if that's only what fits into the budget (right now NAND is much more expensive than just 3 months ago; the supply glut is over). It's like when the OP asked about "certified" PSUs for a 10 year old Dell SFF and people were recommending $100 Tier A PSUs, which doesn't make any sense.

Having said that, I went from 512GB to 2TB and the capacity is highly underutilized one year later. So if I had to do it over again, a higher quality 1TB drive probably would have made more sense. Typically I try to buy more storage capacity than I need because it always seems to fill up. In fall 2023, NAND was dirt cheap so you were incentivized to buy better products (Intel 670p was cheap and good enough for most consumers).

One note about Amazon and also Best Buy. Sometimes they will have open box items with a hefty discount; people return NVMe drives with just a few power on hours so they're basically new. If you happen to get a dud, it's easy to return.
 

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It is a super budget build, an old HP z420 Xeon E5-2695v2 workstation I got for 160USD. It already came with an updated
Corsair CX750M and 4X16 ram not sure the speed but it's running quad channel. It shipped with a Kingston 120Gb 2.5 SSD with Ubuntu 22 I. It didn't come with a case everything is mounted on tray so I'm making a drive rack. It's a lot of computer for 160USD. The power supply goes for 80USD alone. It has a GT610 but I doubt I'll be doing any gaming on it. I will be using it for transcoding and playing video. I want to set it up to dual boot Win7/Linux so will need 2 SSD's which I why I'm not looking at top tier drives. I'm looking at these at the moment unless someone has a specific recommendation. I have an Seagate E.3 4TB drive I'll use for bulk storage.

 
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It is a super budget build, an old HP z420 Xeon E5-2695v2 workstation I got for 160USD. It already came with an updated
Corsair CX750M and 4X16 ram not sure the speed but it's running quad channel.​
Hate to tell you this but even with quad channel, Intel server CPUs offer paltry memory bandwidth compared to AMD. You will probably be burning a lot of power for your transcoding needs on this system if you do it regularly enough. To me, it would be mildly interesting for VMs or maybe serving web pages.
 

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Intel shows max bandwidth 59.7Gb/s with the E5-2695v2. I found 47.7Gb/s for the 5900X. Not sure about latency.
 
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How important is dram? I know it gives faster performance but is the difference in reliability that much better?
I am very happy with the performance of the DRAM-less drive I use as my Steam drive. The workload is like >90% reads, so the write performance and dropoff doesn't really matter.
 
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I am very happy with the performance of the DRAM-less drive I use as my Steam drive. The workload is like >90% reads, so the write performance and dropoff doesn't really matter.
There were a lot of replies dealing with performance which I don't really care about. I'm replacing a system that boots from an old WD 5400 red drive so speed is going to be a big improvement no matter what I get.
 

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I finally cracked open the Lenovo and installed the NVMe drives. Only one slot has a retaining screw. I couldn't find one that would fit. Any reason I need one? The heat sink is pretty tight and there doesn't seem to any movement possible on the drive.
 
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I finally cracked open the Lenovo and installed the NVMe drives. Only one slot has a retaining screw. I couldn't find one that would fit. Any reason I need one? The heat sink is pretty tight and there doesn't seem to any movement possible on the drive.
If it wiggles even a little bit it can lose connection. You don't want that to happen.

The drive didn't come with extra screws?

If you have a local indie computer shop or cell phone repair place, they'll probably have the right size screws around. Otherwise you can get a set of them for like $5-10 but that'll have way more screws than just the one you need.
 

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If it wiggles even a little bit it can lose connection. You don't want that to happen.

The drive didn't come with extra screws?

If you have a local indie computer shop or cell phone repair place, they'll probably have the right size screws around. Otherwise you can get a set of them for like $5-10 but that'll have way more screws than just the one you need.
It has 2 NVMe slots but only had one screw.
 
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