Will violence be part of election 2024?

MtnMan

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Will violence surround the November 2024 election?

Will there be groups (think proud boys type) that will attempt to create disruption, intimidation, and violence during the actual election, including mail-in voting, drop boxes, early voting, and November 5?

If Trump loses, will Trump himself call for violence, a.k.a. "Stand-by, be ready" type signaling like that used on J6?

Will they (Trump/MAGA/proud boys type groups) again try to overthrow the election through violence, i.e., J6 and even the Inauguration?

Will state parties make another attempt at falsifying state electors, and all the other tactics used in 2020?

Will other countries list the US, and "not recommended for travel" from November thru January?

The Government Isn’t Ready for the Violence Trump Might Unleash

 
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tweaker2

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With Trump belching the same 'ol crapola about how he got cheated out of his second term and how his insurrectionists are hostages and how they need to take back what's rightfully theirs etc. etc. I'd say it's a safe bet.

There's that pervasive fear and suspicion tainted with racist innuendo that Trump and his sycophants are stoking to heights unknown that begets hate and frustration that leads to acts of violence against anybody and anything that ain't a conservative white person who votes Republican.

Although the GOP top tier financiers hate Trump with a passion, due to Trump's loyal cult base running things, the aristocrats who own and operate the underpinnings of the party are forced to buy into The Trump Tyrannical Takeover Plan and will seek to exploit Trump's weaknesses to its fullest potential because he's their pal after all.

Trump has learned his lessons from Insurrection v1.0 and he has been applying those lessons with the party faithful aiding and abetting his repeat performance at attempting another hostile takeover of the gov't. His life as a celebrity conman and racketeer depends on it as well as the Republican party as it now exists. Both he, the nutjob partisans that owe their allegiance to him and the activist "Christian" wingnut factions of America are beyond desperate and that's a really dangerous place to be.

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Moonbeam

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Too far off for me to decide one way or another. At the moment, while there may be violence, I don't see it as a likely having much effect if Biden wins and I also believe he will. I think it is a tool the right is counting on to create gin up rage and is a product of desperation. But the Republican party is dead, conservatives have finally sufficiently created what they fear. The party of hate has made itself hated. I also think that a fascist takeover of the country would be bad for business generally because anything profitable would be seized by oligarchs.
 

Moonbeam

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Trump has learned his lessons from Insurrection v1.0 and he will/has been applying those lessons with the party faithful aiding and abetting his repeat performance at attempting another hostile takeover of the gov't. His life as a celebrity conman and racketeer depends on it as well as the Republican party as it now exists. Both he, the nutjob partisans that owe their allegiance to him and the activist "Christian" wingnut factions of America are beyond desperate and that's are really dangerous place to be.
I don't know. I think maybe the megachurch crowd may be noticing that Trump has gotten his hands on a couple of the teats of the cash cows they milk and is cutting into their profits. No con man likes to see successful competition horn in on their gig. I'm guessing a lot of them creamed when they heard $59.99 a Bible. Puts a spin they may not have earlier appreciated regarding separation of church and state.
 

tweaker2

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I don't know. I think maybe the megachurch crowd may be noticing that Trump has gotten his hands on a couple of the teats of the cash cows they milk and is cutting into their profits. No con man likes to see successful competition horn in on their gig. I'm guessing a lot of them creamed when they heard $59.99 a Bible. Puts a spin they may not have earlier appreciated regarding separation of church and state.

Well I do have to admit that Trump is cutting himself in on the televangelist con job side of the House of God, of which can't be much appreciated by those folks so yeah, good point. Selling Holy Miracle Spring Water has run its course until the next batch of gullibles show up and putting on a show by those TV celebrity priests that are miracle healers who own their luxury jets and mansions that beg for pennies from the poor to upkeep their lifestyles is a tricky thing to repeat over and over again. So Trump's angle for diverting profits from the Holier-Than-Thou's really is a sight to behold in that regard.
 

Fenixgoon

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Yes.
Interestingly some friends of mine were saying the FBI has received its highest levels of domestic terror that's this year. Now, they are a more conservative bunch and blamed border security. But the it was only a couple of years ago the FBI said the biggest domestic threat was right wing nationalist groups. I suspect that is actually still the case in an election year with Donald Trump as a candidate
 

eelw

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Although the GOP top tier financiers hate Trump with a passion, due to Trump's loyal cult base running things, the aristocrats who own and operate the underpinnings of the party are forced to buy into The Trump Tyrannical Takeover Plan and will seek to exploit Trump's weaknesses to its fullest potential because he's their pal after all.

Trump has learned his lessons from Insurrection v1.0 and he has been applying those lessons with the party faithful aiding and abetting his repeat performance at attempting another hostile takeover of the gov't. His life as a celebrity conman and racketeer depends on it as well as the Republican party as it now exists. Both he, the nutjob partisans that owe their allegiance to him and the activist "Christian" wingnut factions of America are beyond desperate and that's a really dangerous place to be.

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Well I wonder if he’s learned any lessons. But his marry band of butt kissers sure have. Wonder why Stephen Miller couldn’t pull it off properly the first time?

And back to the top tier financiers. Like why don’t they just black ball Miller and other sycophants? Get rid of the people surrounding him and the orange monkey will be the flaccid. Oh okay he’s already is 🤣Not like his family members are smart enough to pull off coup 2.0
 
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cytg111

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Just assume that it's going to be more depraved than last time and whatever vector its gonna be is something new.
They're gonna cheat, steal, lie, crime... kill. Whatever it takes. For Trump, this one is for ALL THE CHIPS. Everything gets pushed to the middle.
 

gothuevos

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Yes, neither side is going to accept the results if their candidate loses.

Fully expect violent protests on inauguration day when/if Trump wins, allows him to involve Insurrection Act and carte blanche to do whatever after that. Will be swiftly and unfortunately violently dealt with.
 
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gothuevos

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Just assume that it's going to be more depraved than last time and whatever vector its gonna be is something new.
They're gonna cheat, steal, lie, crime... kill. Whatever it takes. For Trump, this one is for ALL THE CHIPS. Everything gets pushed to the middle.

Yep, bingo. Read an article recently about how even after J6, we still lack the "imagination" to try to predict how our institutions will be attacked and subverted.

We lack the will, the stomach, the imagination to deal with what is coming. This is how I know we're already conquered. Whether it's 2024, 2028, etc.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Yes, neither side is going to accept the results if their candidate loses.

Fully expect violent protests on inauguration day when/if Trump wins, allows him to involve Insurrection Act and carte blanche to do whatever after that. Will be swiftly and unfortunately violently dealt with.
Oh, bullshit MAGAT. There you are spouting that both sideism equating the fascists with democrats. The democrats may march in protest. It to equate them with the racist, fascists of Orange man reveals your MAGAT roots. Projection in its purest form. Feckless.
 

cytg111

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Yep, bingo. Read an article recently about how even after J6, we still lack the "imagination" to try to predict how our institutions will be attacked and subverted.

We lack the will, the stomach, the imagination to deal with what is coming. This is how I know we're already conquered. Whether it's 2024, 2028, etc.
Dude .
Like, seriously. Dude .

Then yo get to go out swinging!.. That's a plus right?
50 years and Alzheimer's or go out swinging when the fascists march again. It will be a glorious day.
 
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The violence will come from ANTIFA, BLM and all of the idiots wth pussy hats and assinine colored hair. I don't care what you have to say about me, your opinions are useless as you "people" still believe an insurection can be carried out by unarmed civilians.
Not that you will use any amount of time reflecting upon this however head over here:


I assume these are the unarmed civilians you are alluding to.
 

eelw

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The violence will come from ANTIFA, BLM and all of the idiots wth pussy hats and assinine colored hair. I don't care what you have to say about me, your opinions are useless as you "people" still believe an insurection can be carried out by unarmed civilians.
Lol huge difference from chanting "NOT MY PRESIDENT!!!" compared to Jan 6. And lol it's been ages since one argued they were unarmed.
 

Stokely

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BLM is going to overturn the election along with the punks and goths. Sounds plausible.

Just because the J6 invasion of the Capitol was full of ineffectual morons doesn't mean it wasn't an insurrection. The Bay of Pigs wasn't much of an invasion but it still was an invasion.

If those yahoos had made it to where the politicians were holed up--and they got close--who knows what would have happened.

Hopefully since Biden is in office, we'll get protection at voting sites against any redneck assholes trying to intimidate voters--er, sorry, "make sure there isn't any cheating happening."

In general, the GOP learned one thing in 2020 and from the subsequent trials--cheating is possible, you just have to be smarter about it. You can't understate just what blithering idiots those people were--they made very little effort to hide anything. A smarter crew may get away with it. There are no lines they won't cross. I think there will be many efforts in many states to rig this election.
 

APU_Fusion

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The violence will come from ANTIFA, BLM and all of the idiots wth pussy hats and assinine colored hair. I don't care what you have to say about me, your opinions are useless as you "people" still believe an insurection can be carried out by unarmed civilians.
Nice try at trolling 😂😂😂.. remember to donate your rent money to Trump to help his bond in fraud case.
 
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