Well memory modules take up a relatively small part of the motherboard, so I guess it is not the most impossible engineering task to adopt the ATX standard to CAMM2 instead of DIMM.I wonder if Dell went to the trouble of developing a full ATX replacement if some standards body would take it up like JEDEC did for CAMM.
Seems like a modern overhaul of overall PC system design is long overdue.
This is the best about being PCMR, When outdated designs get replaced by better.And this is why I am not PCMR-guy.
well the last time Intel and Dell tried that, we got BTX. lol.I wonder if Dell went to the trouble of developing a full ATX replacement if some standards body would take it up like JEDEC did for CAMM.
Yeah, so Xbox Series X tower but PC.I prefer something like easy to plug rectangular modules. Everything covered with a plastic shroud to protect the internal electronics and having microchannel spaces in the plastic for airflow. Make it so easy that a five year old can assemble their own PC.
Threadripper is explicitly slightly different server stuff, it runs RDIMMs quite literally.Is Threadripper going CAMM2 or DDR6?
Why doesn't this forum have the option to give an "angry" reaction...Maybe all his gaming needs are met by Candy Crush...
Why doesn't this forum have the option to give an "angry" reaction...
He must always be angry. What with his tail on fire...Just use the laughing one but click it sarcastically.
love the irony.These things don't run video games.
Toy chips for a toy platform.
True, but that was over a decade ago now.well the last time Intel and Dell tried that, we got BTX. lol.
Part of the issue isn't that ATX stinks. It's that the PCIe card form-factor also stinks.That being said, looking over the BTX description it sounds like Intel/etc already thought of quite a bit back then - seems like with some modernisation and a bit more industry unity behind it that it could be successful.
True, but not the reason I was bringing up a revamped form factor.Well memory modules take up a relatively small part of the motherboard, so I guess it is not the most impossible engineering task to adopt the ATX standard to CAMM2 instead of DIMM.
Yeah I've seen them a few times.Part of the issue isn't that ATX stinks. It's that the PCIe card form-factor also stinks.
DC GPUs moved onto OAM/SXM eons ago, we plebs still have to cope.
As someone whose OCD has made the last 2 PC assemblies a living hell I would definitely embrace easier - especially for M.2 installation which is enough to drive me to enterprise U.2 solutions 😅Make it so easy that a five year old can assemble their own PC
old and busted.which is enough to drive me to enterprise U.2 solutions
Looking for something that can fit into old SATA drive slots, but still has cable fu for positioning flexibility.old and busted.
E1.s and E3.s/l are the new hotness.
E3.s should do but idk if they sell risers for those on the open market.Looking for something that can fit into old SATA drive slots, but still has cable fu for positioning flexibility.
Sure but how would that plug into boards (OAM/SXM) ?Part of the issue isn't that ATX stinks. It's that the PCIe card form-factor also stinks.
DC GPUs moved onto OAM/SXM eons ago, we plebs still have to cope.
Yeah.Sure but how would that plug into boards (OAM/SXM) ?
Yeah, yeah but unless there's a cable, it would take a huge space on the board wouldn't it ?Yeah.
Screw the heatsink onto the card. Plug it in.
Torque till it's done. ?????. PROFIT.
In regard to support of heavy videocards, I think that you have to consider the PCIe trace length, and maybe a revision of the ATX standard with an extra screw hole for mounting a "clamp" or something similar could fix it. Also the designers of video cards should focus more on this.True, but not the reason I was bringing up a revamped form factor.
ATX suffers numerous problems, including large GFX card weight causing sagging on the mobo without some form of bracing.
Either the GFX card should be subdivided like the PSU into its own standardised chamber with all the physical support it could need, or they need to design proper physical support for large, heavy extension cards directly into the mobo form factor spec.
For context, the initial ATX spec is almost 30 years old now (1995).
It was designed for systems very different from those we have today.
Back then you didn't even need large heatsinks for CPU's, the Pentium Pro only just being introduced in November of that year, and the first 3D only accelerator card based on the 3Dfx Voodoo1 was introduced in October of the following year.
Airflow would be a problem for most tower cases. This could be made but would never (IMO) be made a standard.Just a curiosity, but as seen in all those sandwich cases with the GPU routed at the back of the board, couldn't be a solution to actually put the PCIE slot much closer to the CPU but on the backside and not vertical but horizontal aligned with the motherboard?