Yeah it's a mezzanine card.it would take a huge space on the board wouldn't it ?
Nothing.What has changed?
AMD has just submitted necessary patches for the Zen5 microarchitecture to be supported by the next stable version of GNU Compiler Collection (GCC).
Phoronix reports that AMD Zen5 parches for GCC 14 have been merged, just in time for the upcoming stable release. This means that AMD Zen5 CPU enablement has been added well before any EPYC or Ryzen product has been released featuring this new architecture.
The actual patch is not the full support for Zen5, rather, it uses replicated Zen4 code, as pointed out by the patch details. However, this being added now means that AMD can later fill in the missing details and while initial support is already present in the stable GCC library.
Which is (almost)exactly what I was saying all along.ATX isn't going anywhere, PC is a mature market wholly averse to change.
Is that why we are supposedly getting notebook chips for desktop in the future?ATX isn't going anywhere, PC is a mature market wholly averse to change.
Yeah?Is that why we are supposedly getting notebook chips for desktop in the future?
ATX isn't going anywhere, PC is a mature market wholly averse to change.
Notebook CPUs in ATX formfactor PCs is not a new concept. It rather has been the standard for many years now.Is that why we are supposedly getting notebook chips for desktop in the future?
Yeah?
It's client now.
Me either. I have a laptop that I take when I travel, but its crap on games, and other things, and I hate the keyboard. I use it for what it was intended. I use my home computers for DC work, games and serious browsing.(30 tabs) I would never be able to do ANY of that on a laptop. (effectively) As in games, I would have to connect a 30 inch external monitor, e keyboard and a mouse. And the CPU / video card could not touch a 4080 ot a 4090.I can see that happening, but I sure don't have to like it.
If the gfx card was mounted parallel to the mobo with the HSF assembly on the reverse side it would be very achievable I think.Airflow would be a problem for most tower cases. This could be made but would never (IMO) be made a standard.
At this rate it seems pretty likely that we will have some announcements in time for Computex, even if availability doesn't come till later.This might not be enough to determine the release but I guess it's enough to be a news and it's better than no news.
Yeah?
It's client now.
On the other hand there's nothing stopping Threadripper from changing its current form to something else to pick up the slack.I can see that happening, but I sure don't have to like it.
Mac Mini, Mac Studio-esque.Is that why we are supposedly getting notebook chips for desktop in the future?
Client using mobile instead server dies doesn't mean it will be soldered. It will still be socketed and unlocked as usual, and 99% of the audience won't know nor notice the difference.DIY will get either Mini-PCs, AIOs, laptops, and for DIY i believe we will get, up to Core i5/Ryzen 5/7 soldered to motherboard CPUs/APUs, depending on what they will want to achieve. Above that - its still DIY, standard DIY.
But thats not really the "default" solution or better said, what people have in mind when they think ATX, is it?. Adroc says that ATX is not going anywhere, cause the market is adverse to change, and at the same time desktop CPUs are being thing of past - if thats not a massive change right there, i dont know what is.Notebook CPUs in ATX formfactor PCs is not a new concept. It rather has been the standard for many years now.
So if i want to have actual proper machine, that i can fit in 2x 4090s, i would be out of luck?Mac Mini, Mac Studio-esque.
DIY will get either Mini-PCs, AIOs, laptops, and for DIY i believe we will get, up to Core i5/Ryzen 5/7 soldered to motherboard CPUs/APUs, depending on what they will want to achieve. Above that - its still DIY, standard DIY.
You still can, with external GPU enclosures connected to mobo's oculink ports!So if i want to have actual proper machine, that i can fit in 2x 4090s, i would be out of luck?
Have you read my post?So if i want to have actual proper machine, that i can fit in 2x 4090s, i would be out of luck?
Client using mobile designs may very much mean mobile packages.Client using mobile instead server dies doesn't mean it will be soldered. It will still be socketed and unlocked as usual, and 99% of the audience won't know nor notice the difference.
And yet there is still change.ATX isn't going anywhere, PC is a mature market wholly averse to change.
It isn't clear how much clearance those power connectors have, and how much the wires are having to bend to fit the back cover on 😟And yet there is still change.
Sorry for the offtopic.