Exactly right. I have a 14900K and run it w/o HT, 5.5/4.3, air cooled, always under 1.3V, 75C max temp and it's 100% stable. I could put it more but for insignificant gains in the daily work loads.
Here's the thing. I like the K parts as they are. Intel gives you specs on what they can do...
I agree that focusing the P cores on ST and using the E's for MT is the future. I've stated it many times.
But as is often the case when discussing things in forums that was not my original point. My original point was that currently Raptor Cove "enjoys" a 31% improvement in IPC when running...
Good points.
But many people like myself will be looking at 40,000 CB R23 MT points as the benchmark for ARL to reach/beat. That's a stock score with good cooling. Over at Overclocking.net I've seen scores as high as 46,000 with aggressive custom loops setups.
I thought we were comparing stock all-core frequency speeds. This is what the 14900K and 13900K will clock to under stock conditions. Adequate cooling and power is a prerequisite for ANY processor.
Bottom line is that the 14900K will go as high as 5.7GHz all-core.
If you don't agree that's...
You are including the 16 E cores in that total score. Remove them and do the math. 31% is for the P cores HT on vs. off.
Even if you consider the total score, the P's contribute to more than half of it so it's at least 15% of the total score due to HT. Then there is the frequency deficit and...
Incorrect. RPL will do 30% or more MT increase with HT in Cinebench MT.
Raptor Lake - 10/20/2022
13900K
40760
Raptor Cove P Cores
8
5.8
2256
389
5.5
22528
2816
512
31.6%
Gracemont E Cores
16
4.3
1140
265
4.3
18232
1140
265
13600K...
Incorrect. 13900K runs 5.5GHz stock in MT.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-13900k/24.html
Furthermore it is customary to compare a new generation to the last generation, not two generations ago. 14900K will boost to 5.7GHz in stock form. As I wrote, ARL has a lot of ground...
HT performance boost on MT apps/benches like Blender/Cinebench/Handbrake (some settings) is significant. Like 25%. Granted those are a niche software as I noted previously but the "old" scores from RPL are still there for Intel to deal with.
Let me be specific:
Doesn't have to be a magic...
Also I like that Intel started their numbering scheme over with the advent of tile based CPU's. MTL are "1" series, ARL "2" series, etc... We don't need to really care about the Ultra as we know the gen/architecture from that first digit.
That as a good move on Intel's part.
If we are talking about 5.5GHz all-core max frequency for Arrow Lake and assuming a good increase in transistor density and efficiency over Intel 7, then I am impressed with Intel's first crack at 20A.
Couple of things to keep in mind. All of the ST frequencies advertised for Raptor Lake are...
Regarding Raptor Lake crashing in games. There is some nuance here.
Intel has specified the 14900K and KS especially at the extreme limit of their performance. What I mean is that if you don't have excellent cooling, power delivery, and the know how to set up load lines and such correctly...
I meant to write Intel 4 where I wrote Intel 7. I fixed that.
I believe you of course but unless I see actual improvements in the nodes when it comes to efficiency then who cares what they call them?
I don't see much difference between Intel 4 (7nm) and Intel 7 (10+++++++++++++++++). MTL...
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