Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Joe NYC

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I've questioned you for awhile. I've been in wait and see mode before I determine if you are full of it or not. Your time is almost out IMHO, and it seems others are tired of your seemingly baseless predictions at this point.

But hey, you keep doing you and telling people how they need to earn more money for buy a $999 9950X which certaintly won't be the price. Enjoy your last moments of "credibility" by telling people to not be poor. If you are so well off, what are you doing in a war torn country?
I would not be considering as equivalent:
a) having knowledge about physical properties of Zen 5 core
b) having opinion about what fickle minds in marketing department decide in the future about price of Zen 5

a >> b
 

Thunder 57

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I don't believ
I would not be considering as equivalent:
a) having knowledge about physical properties of Zen 5 core
b) having opinion about what fickle minds in marketing department decide in the future about price of Zen 5

a >> b

I don't believe he has either. I will be glad if I am wrong but I just don't buy it.
 

deasd

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Turin spec OUT




old news review: Genoa spec out in July, 2022

 

uzzi38

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The cache amounts are wrong for some of these, Zen 5C cores have a fraction the L3 available to them.

EDIT: Actually, there's probably a lot more wrong than that. Wouldn't make sense for there to be only one 500W SKU.
 
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aigomorla

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Requesting you both not engage with that person directly. Kindly contact the mod.

Yes you can always hit that nice Report Button our web programers put in and report something that does not comply with TOS, and let us handle it.

But we take insults and trolling very seriously, so you shouldn't do it even in retailiation, unless its between 2 friends and a joke was implied in the comment where both parties are not offended. But at that point we ask you put a Sarcasm Tag, so other members know its sarcasm between friends, and not a trolling driveby.

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CakeMonster

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Too charitable. He was definitely wrong about the launch dates.
Fair enough, I stand corrected.

The technical details may turn out to be wrong or right, we'll see later this year. I guess what I'm saying is I'm more tolerant about forum banter and claims than the online rumor mongers with youtube channels and a financial incentive who we know have lied before. I know my annoyance with those is 'me' thing though, those are too present in the hardware community to avoid unfortunately, it is what it is, and I'll try to stop complaining.
 

Thunder 57

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Just saying that the technical info is far more valuable than pricing info. And if @adroc_thurston is wrong on pricing info, it's really a minor thing compared to his contribution of technical information.

I just don't get why he has such credibility. Based on what history? Looks like his April launch date is wrong too. People call out MLID for making crap up, I can't help but feel the same way here.
 
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carrotmania

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Having worked fairly high in the computer retail industry, and been a hobbyist for longer, I know internal and external release dates can differ wildly, the former changing multiple times. As in, internal to the company the idea is to release on X date, but if they've not announced it publicly (external) it is subject to change until the last minute.

AMD themselves haven't announced anything at all, and this thread has already bounced around decent ideas why that is so; to wit: if Zen4 is selling at or beyond their predictions, why introduce a new architecture when Intel's latest is mediocre extra battery life in laptops, or furnace inducing 3% top performance on desktop; if Zen5 *is* that good, announcing at any time before the last second might take the impetus for Zen4 sales (see previous point) and why would a company risk that. It's highly possible that Zen5 was planned to release now, but it's since been decided they can hold off for the "back to school" season, ie, a massive 2 months...

People in this thread being butthurt that Zen5 isn't out in a 8 days isn't the dunk on adroc that you seem to think it is. I don't believe he's ever said he works for AMD, and is subject to ongoing and last minute changes in info. He has so far not pulled a MILD, and changed the release date in recent posts to suit his narrative, and deleted all his old posts. I am also not saying he's not lying, I'm just saying we still don't have proof either way, so calm your clams.
 

Fjodor2001

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Having worked fairly high in the computer retail industry, and been a hobbyist for longer, I know internal and external release dates can differ wildly, the former changing multiple times. As in, internal to the company the idea is to release on X date, but if they've not announced it publicly (external) it is subject to change until the last minute.

AMD themselves haven't announced anything at all, and this thread has already bounced around decent ideas why that is so; to wit: if Zen4 is selling at or beyond their predictions, why introduce a new architecture when Intel's latest is mediocre extra battery life in laptops, or furnace inducing 3% top performance on desktop; if Zen5 *is* that good, announcing at any time before the last second might take the impetus for Zen4 sales (see previous point) and why would a company risk that. It's highly possible that Zen5 was planned to release now, but it's since been decided they can hold off for the "back to school" season, ie, a massive 2 months...

People in this thread being butthurt that Zen5 isn't out in a 8 days isn't the dunk on adroc that you seem to think it is. I don't believe he's ever said he works for AMD, and is subject to ongoing and last minute changes in info. He has so far not pulled a MILD, and changed the release date in recent posts to suit his narrative, and deleted all his old posts. I am also not saying he's not lying, I'm just saying we still don't have proof either way, so calm your clams.
But why trust him over any other person on this forum? What history of correct leak information does he have? None that I know of so far.
 
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