AMD 7900GRE general release

[GodisanAtheist]

Frankly I hope AMD can keep RDNA high end parts with a GCD shrink by using both monolithic and RDNA3 style chiplets.

A lot of the promise of "chiplets", even the approach RDNA3 uses, is that you can upgrade just the GCD while keeping the same fanout/interposer/memory subsystem and realize extra performance thanks to the additional compute resources and clockspeed without a ton of additional resources/using volume pricing for those existing parts.

Maybe that's a pivot ( vs full blown chiplet arrays that got pushed to RDNA5) AMD is trying to make at the moment, hence all the hush hush and lack of credible leaks around RDNA4.

 

[igor_kavinski]

They might try to replace 7900 XT with the highest end RDNA4, especially if it is cheaper to make and nets them more profit.

At the same time, really hope we get 7950 XTX. It won't be anything too special but at least, it will be better than everything they have now.

 

[blckgrffn]

That what is current rumor about RDNA4, between 7900XT/XTX and faster RT for 500-600$

I know right? It might actually happen? And I am talking ~4K raster performance here, since I believe todays 4K performance is a good informer for tomorrows 1440p.

I was as sucker for cards like the 9500 non-pro and similar, I think if I was shopping this GRE "mobile card in desktop format" would have a siren call.

 

[SolidQ]

At the same time, really hope we get 7950 XTX.

Zero reason to make 7950XTX. People will get RDNA4 with faster RT and cheaper

I am talking ~4K raster performance here

ah ok, i'm doesn't have any interesting in 4k for like 10 years.

 

[dlerious]

Gamers Nexus review

 

[blckgrffn]

Gamers Nexus review

TL;DR?

 

[SolidQ]

eh, so big difference?

 

[dlerious]

TL;DR?

Sits between 7900XT and 7800XT. 4070 better for heavy RT games.Things are heating up in the around $500 price category. 7800XT/7700XT under pressure to drop prices.

 

[dlerious]

eh, so big difference?

Where are these numbers from? Is the 14% more FPS for the 4070 - I have a hard time believing the 7900GRE is 25% better in cyberpunk?

 

[SolidQ]

I have a hard time believing the 7900GRE is 25% better in cyberpunk?

Easy. It's from DF fresh video. I was think 4070 can handle Cyberpunk in 1440p, but seems pretty meh card for 550-600$

Additional screens from difference sources.

Spoiler

Where are these numbers from?

official from AMD

 

[No_Huckleberry_1514]

Is this a typo? Why benchmarks compare the Super.. versus GRE... but then list price comparison of the normal 4070 vs GRE...
I haven't found this mystery 4070 Super for $549

 

[PJVol]

Sits between 7900XT and 7800XT. 4070 better for heavy RT games.Things are heating up in the around $500 price category. 7800XT/7700XT under pressure to drop prices.

HWUB shows it's much closer to the 7800XT, even if factory OC'ed

 

[SolidQ]

Interesting. I think RDNA4 will kill enterily 4xxx series up to 4070ti super. Ratcher and Clank interesting result's 12 vs 16gb

 

[DAPUNISHER]

HWUB shows it's much closer to the 7800XT, even if factory OC'ed
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He only tested 12 games. 3 of which - Cyberpunk, Dying light 2, and Alan Walks 2, are all Nvidia sponsored and heavily favor RTX hardware. That skewed results.

W1zzard tested 25 games, and the GRE sits in between 7800XT and 7900XT where you'd expect. Almost perfectly splitting the RT performance; being 12% faster than the 7800XT and 13% slower than the 7900XT. Some other reviews fall in between as well. For those that rely on Ferengi math, its price matches its performance in the product stack.

 

[blckgrffn]

He only tested 12 games. 3 of which - Cyberpunk, Dying light 2, and Alan Walks 2, are all Nvidia sponsored and heavily favor RTX hardware. That skewed results.

W1zzard tested 25 games, and the GRE sits in between 7800XT and 7900XT where you'd expect. Almost perfectly splitting the RT performance; being 12% faster than the 7800XT and 13% slower than the 7900XT. Some other reviews fall in between as well. For those that rely on Ferengi math, its price matches its performance in the product stack.

Yup, the TechpowerUp written review was pretty exhaustive IMO and that's basically what it said. The performance increase is inline with the cost increase.

It's all fine. Let's see all the prices of the AMD midrange drop another $50 and that would be interesting. As it stands, gaming GPUs are second or third fiddle at both companies so TBH I am glad we got the Super refresh and this response at all.

 

[SolidQ]

3 of which - Cyberpunk

I wonder, why Hub cyberpunk 4070 super so close, he's testing on high setting, not ultra. Then it's explain why RTX 4070 can give 60+ fps on 1440p

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I wonder, why Hub cyberpunk 4070 super so close, he's testing on high setting, not ultra. Then it's explain why RTX 4070 can give 60+ fps on 1440p

I'm cool with his testing methodology. He has been called an AMD shill for so long that he can't win no matter how he tests. Trying to avoid the appearance of favoritism, and perhaps overcompensating a bit in the process, still gets him roasted.

There are plenty of other reviewers out there to compare and contrast with. It's all good. It's when people start suddenly throwing his numbers around as if his work is unassailable or the definitive answer that I have to laugh. They will turn on him the second they don't like what he reports. 🤣

 

[In2Photos]

HWUB also said in a follow up video that AMD has confirmed the overclocking restrictions for the 7900 GRE are a bug and will be addressed with future updates. So you might be able to squeeze even more out of it at some point.

 

[AtenRa]

Interesting. I think RDNA4 will kill enterily 4xxx series up to 4070ti super. Ratcher and Clank interesting result's 12 vs 16gb

This is the best review for a GPU i have seen the last 5-6 years.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

HWUB also said in a follow up video that AMD has confirmed the overclocking restrictions for the 7900 GRE are a bug and will be addressed with future updates. So you might be able to squeeze even more out of it at some point.

No one ever complains about "free" performance. I even enjoy when a reviewer maxes out their sample to show what kind of an uplift is possible. But I don't manually overclock my cards anymore. My Hellhound 7800XT is in fact running the silent bios. By the time I'd need the extra fps from overclocking while using the more aggressive bios I'll have replaced it with something else. I like my PCs as cool and quiet as reasonable.

Still, nice to know those that like to get legendary on the 3Dmark boards and such won't have to scratch the GRE off their list much longer.

 

[jpiniero]

He only tested 12 games. 3 of which - Cyberpunk, Dying light 2, and Alan Walks 2, are all Nvidia sponsored and heavily favor RTX hardware. That skewed results.

The 7900GRE has less memory bandwidth than the 7800 XT. That's more likely to be the issue when it ends up only being slightly faster. Might be compounded if the Infinity Cache is slower too.

 

[Ranulf]

The HUB follow up video, seems they went based off of reference model and not their Saphhire Nitro card:

 

[In2Photos]

No one ever complains about "free" performance. I even enjoy when a reviewer maxes out their sample to show what kind of an uplift is possible. But I don't manually overclock my cards anymore. My Hellhound 7800XT is in fact running the silent bios. By the time I'd need the extra fps from overclocking while using the more aggressive bios I'll have replaced it with something else. I like my PCs as cool and quiet as reasonable.

Still, nice to know those that like to get legendary on the 3Dmark boards and such won't have to scratch the GRE off their list much longer.

I have my 6800XT "tuned" with an overclock on both the GPU clock and memory, along with an undervolt. I get slightly better than stock performance, but at ~200W instead of ~270. Helps with overall temps and fan speeds. I also frame cap some games that don't need high fps to keep power consumption, heat and fan speeds down as well. So far seems to be working great.

 

[PJVol]

He only tested 12 games. 3 of which - Cyberpunk, Dying light 2, and Alan Walks 2, are all Nvidia sponsored and heavily favor RTX hardware. That skewed results.

Not quite.
1) There's no any noticeable nvidia advantage in these titles without RT, which is actually how HWUB was testing
2) I prefer PCGH for the GPU reviews, which I try not to impose on anyone, and their data is basically consistent with hwub re-review. Tested in 20 games, RT put into separate chart as well, overall performance index

Spoiler: Performance index 2024

 

[igor_kavinski]

I have my 6800XT "tuned"

Yeah. Did the same with my RX 6800. The difference in noise level was staggering where it was screaming before and after the UV, it was kinda humming. Performance stayed basically the same.