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HomerJS

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Another point is that I think we should start judging each other on our highest not our lowest. I have to assume that girl is going to regret those remarks later on after she’s done growing.
This is not her lowest. She has a great future in Republican politics
 
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Strikes and second chances are for mistakes, slips of the tongue, inadvertent word choices and other things things that were brief and not intentional or deliberate.

I bump Miss KKK out of nursing school and let her serve chicken sammiches at Popeyes.
 
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cytg111

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This is not her lowest. She has a great future in Republican politics
Yeah. Maybe. One thing is for certain though if the entirety of society puts her in this specific column from now till eternity it gives her little chance to grow and choose a different path later on.
 
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cytg111

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Question: As a society, why did we move away from cutting a theif's hand off?

Common people we're deeply flawed creatures, we fuck up, without second third fourth chances NONE of us would be here!

I will go out on a limb here and say that our most defining feature as human beings is: We fuck up.

And then we get a chance to learn and grow.

Personally I am not a smart man. Some lessons I need to take 1000 times smacked across my face - before getting to the gold nugget.
 
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Drach

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Question: As a society, why did we move away from cutting a theif's hand off?

Common people we're deeply flawed creatures, we fuck up, without second third fourth chances NONE of us would be here!

I will go out on a limb here and say that our most defining feature as human beings is: We fuck up.

And then we get a chance to learn and grow.

Personally I am not a smart man. Some lessons I need to take 1000 times smacked across my face - before getting to the gold nugget.
I am thankfully a far different human being than the one I was when I was 18. I am thankful most of my friends have forgiven me for my transgressions of the past. I was a hard right winger when I was young. I am a left leaning after years of growing up and I hope the people can forgive me. People can change .
 
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cytg111

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I am thankfully a far different human being than the one I was when I was 18. I am thankful most of my friends have forgiven me for my transgressions of the past. I was a hard right winger when I was young. I am a left leaning after years of growing up and I hope the people can forgive me.
I like this clip, it's Sean Strickland after winning the belt and on Theo Von's podcast, he is talking about being a white supremacist and through training realizing he was not a racist just really fucking angry.. I am pretty sure he is still a Trumphard though. I saw another clip of him reacting to the Andrew Tate culture and he was ripping into these dudes as pathetic men.

To me Sean stands as an example of a guy with a good heart, has endured a shit ton of trauma, and is working through it, growing day by day.

I cant hate on people on the path. Some have a longer road ahead than others.

youtube.com/watch?v=P7ii2cUhjAk

edit: Btw, you and me both dude.
 
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I don't know much about the person, or the topic. Country has never been my favorite music. But a shallow dive finds names like DeFord Bailey and I'm pretty sure most everyone knows that coutry is firmly rooted in the Blues.
 

Drach

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I like this clip, it's Sean Strickland after winning the belt and on Theo Von's podcast, he is talking about being a white supremacist and through training realizing he was not a racist just really fucking angry.. I am pretty sure he is still a Trumphard though. I saw another clip of him reacting to the Andrew Tate culture and he was ripping into these dudes as pathetic men.

To me Sean stands as an example of a guy with a good heart, has endured a shit ton of trauma, and is working through it, growing day by day.

I cant hate on people on the path. Some have a longer road ahead than others.

youtube.com/watch?v=P7ii2cUhjAk

edit: Btw, you and me both dude.
Thanks for that clip.
As a 280# 6'3 dude, I thought I was Sean Strictlind till I got my ass whooped by my ex wifes husband. FAFO

Please learn to forgive people or not. It's healthier if you can learn to forgive. I'm not a religious person but I still have a long road ahead.

 
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HomerJS

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Thanks for that clip.
As a 280# 6'3 dude, I thought I was Sean Strictlind till I got my ass whooped by my ex wifes husband. FAFO

Please learn to forgive people or not. It's healthier if you can learn to forgive. I'm not a religious person but I still have a long road ahead.

I’m ok with forgiveness but first you have to admit your transgression and that it was wrong.

Remember the MAGAt code says never apologize and double/triple down
 

mikeymikec

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Question: As a society, why did we move away from cutting a theif's hand off?

Probably largely because thieving isn't necessarily a question of "fucking up". Some people have to do it to survive.

Her racism *could* be a necessary part of her existence (e.g. she might be domestically abused and forced to talk this way), and if that was the case then there ought to be some more signs of it, the relevant agencies would hopefully help get her out of the situation and into one that allows her to heal and get on with her life.

You talk as if society consists of one person who will never forgive a racist transgression, which is neither logical or true. The fact that she's transmitted her racist opinions to the world is a bigger problem than if she had just said something on the local level; some people will never forgive her (if she genuinely wanted forgiveness), most will though and many people will forget about this nobody's idiotic statement (I will probably have forgotten her name three weeks after this thread has died). She could transmit a sincere apology. She could apply to another university, either one that doesn't give much of a shit about her opinions, or one that does and include an apology-type statement in her application. There are so many ways forward out of the hole she's dug for herself, and even if she doesn't want to get out of the hole then I'm certain that there are plenty of like-minded locals to keep her company and some basic job to go with it.

I'd go as far as to say that the only people who wouldn't forgive her (if she sincerely asked for it) are people with little power on the road to her making something better of her life than the absolute basics. Ironically if she doesn't seek forgiveness then it's the small-minded and intolerant people who often like to wear red hats that she'll have to fear in putting a foot wrong with for the rest of her life.
 
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cytg111

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Probably largely because thieving isn't necessarily a question of "fucking up". Some people have to do it to survive.

Her racism *could* be a necessary part of her existence (e.g. she might be domestically abused and forced to talk this way), and if that was the case then there ought to be some more signs of it, the relevant agencies would hopefully help get her out of the situation and into one that allows her to heal and get on with her life.

You talk as if society consists of one person who will never forgive a racist transgression, which is neither logical or true. The fact that she's transmitted her racist opinions to the world is a bigger problem than if she had just said something on the local level; some people will never forgive her (if she genuinely wanted forgiveness), most will though and many people will forget about this nobody's idiotic statement (I will probably have forgotten her name three weeks after this thread has died). She could transmit a sincere apology. She could apply to another university, either one that doesn't give much of a shit about her opinions, or one that does and include an apology-type statement in her application. There are so many ways forward out of the hole she's dug for herself, and even if she doesn't want to get out of the hole then I'm certain that there are plenty of like-minded locals to keep her company and some basic job to go with it.

I'd go as far as to say that the only people who wouldn't forgive her (if she sincerely asked for it) are people with little power on the road to her making something better of her life than the absolute basics. Ironically if she doesn't seek forgiveness then it's the small-minded and intolerant people who often like to wear red hats that she'll have to fear in putting a foot wrong with for the rest of her life.
I get all that. I think I was just trying to convey something like a softer approach than what "cancel culture" has become.
As to the bolded part, I am just super super grateful I did my growing pains BEFORE there was cameras everywhere and everybody willing or unwilling is part of this gigantic reality show. Everybody fucks up - and now it's on camera. Forever.
 

mikeymikec

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I get all that. I think I was just trying to convey something like a softer approach than what "cancel culture" has become.
As to the bolded part, I am just super super grateful I did my growing pains BEFORE there was cameras everywhere and everybody willing or unwilling is part of this gigantic reality show. Everybody fucks up - and now it's on camera. Forever.

I'm not trying to be nasty when I say this, but I think you're starting to sound like an old person who fears things, fears change, and I think you need to challenge that. With the digital age, information stands a greater chance of permanence but its permanence is highly dependent on how humanity uses it, that's aside from how easy it is to add more information to the pile in total and thus compounding the problem. Take my wife's phone for example: She's probably got 10k photos and videos on it by now. Is the information organised to be easily accessible and therefore allowing her to quickly find something amongst that lot? No. If it's not filed in a usable manner then it's often as good as lost.

I bet that while maybe one person here (without looking up anything) can remember the name of some racist Karen from a year or two ago, there wouldn't be any consensus about which one it was. I certainly can't remember any! Being a moron is part of the human condition, there's just so many of them; maybe if there was one Internet-famous racist Karen per year then *maybe* people would stand a chance of remembering. There was that wedding registrar who got fired (I think?) for being a homophobic bitch, I can't remember her name and I doubt that I could pick her name out of a multiple choice question either. The crimes have to be a lot bigger, like Brock Turner or Kyle Rittenhouse, for people to start remembering their infamy longer-term.
 

hal2kilo

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I don't know much about the person, or the topic. Country has never been my favorite music. But a shallow dive finds names like DeFord Bailey and I'm pretty sure most everyone knows that coutry is firmly rooted in the Blues.
You mean bluegrass.


Newer rock influenced popular country music definitely has some roots in the blues.
 
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pmv

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I am just super super grateful I did my growing pains BEFORE there was cameras everywhere and everybody willing or unwilling is part of this gigantic reality show. Everybody fucks up - and now it's on camera. Forever.

I don't know about this specific case. As I'm not black, it's not my place to forgive or not, I tend to think.

But the goldfish-bowl nature of modern life is definitely a new and troubling thing. When I went over the handlebars of my bike, a few years back (messed up fitting my brake cable) my first thought wasn't "that tarmac looks hard" or "I hope that bus behind me stops in time", but "I hope none of those kids at the bus-stop there have their phone camera out, because I bet I look pretty stupid".
 
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nakedfrog

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You mean bluegrass.


Newer rock influenced popular country music definitely has some roots in the blues.
Older country music is also rooted in the blues. Take something like "Can the Circle Be Unbroken", a Carter family classic, I don't think anyone would dispute that it's a country song. It follows a typical 12 bar blues progression. Hank Williams "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry", same deal.
 

cytg111

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I'm not trying to be nasty when I say this, but I think you're starting to sound like an old person who fears things, fears change, and I think you need to challenge that. With the digital age, information stands a greater chance of permanence but its permanence is highly dependent on how humanity uses it, that's aside from how easy it is to add more information to the pile in total and thus compounding the problem. Take my wife's phone for example: She's probably got 10k photos and videos on it by now. Is the information organised to be easily accessible and therefore allowing her to quickly find something amongst that lot? No. If it's not filed in a usable manner then it's often as good as lost.

I bet that while maybe one person here (without looking up anything) can remember the name of some racist Karen from a year or two ago, there wouldn't be any consensus about which one it was. I certainly can't remember any! Being a moron is part of the human condition, there's just so many of them; maybe if there was one Internet-famous racist Karen per year then *maybe* people would stand a chance of remembering. There was that wedding registrar who got fired (I think?) for being a homophobic bitch, I can't remember her name and I doubt that I could pick her name out of a multiple choice question either. The crimes have to be a lot bigger, like Brock Turner or Kyle Rittenhouse, for people to start remembering their infamy longer-term.
I love it. Old .
But it's true. I do feel the conservative creep on me. It's not as much me shifting beliefs it's that the world changes.

- Just not always for the better - said every conservative ever.

I am a privacy oriented person. This new trend with recording your workouts in the gym is driving me up the wall. No I dont want to be a background NPC in your shitty video, instinctively I just wanna toss your phone into the wall at full throttle.

About your wifes phone. You are so wrong. So very very wrong. In a minute a "personal" AI assistant will have shifted through all that and be ready to to sort em in any manner imaginable for your viewing pleasure (and selling the metadata to a company wanting to show you political ads and sell you a new drug, sssssh).

I like Snowden as much as I hate Assange(little bitch) and Snowden once said: "Arguing that you don’t care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like arguing you don’t care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."

Amen brother. Amen.

And our privacy is getting raped these years.
 
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mikeymikec

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I love it. Old .
But it's true. I do feel the conservative creep on me. It's not as much me shifting beliefs it's that the world changes.

- Just not always for the better - said every conservative ever.

I am a privacy oriented person. This new trend with recording your workouts in the gym is driving me up the wall. No I dont want to be a background NPC in your shitty video, instinctively I just wanna toss your phone into the wall at full throttle.

About your wifes phone. You are so wrong. So very very wrong. In a minute a "personal" AI assistant will have shifted through all that and be ready to to sort em in any manner imaginable for your viewing pleasure (and selling the metadata to a company wanting to show you political ads and sell you a new drug, sssssh).

I like Snowden as much as I hate Assange(little bitch) and Snowden once said: "Arguing that you don’t care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like arguing you don’t care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."

Amen brother. Amen.

And our privacy is getting raped these years.

Straying somewhat from the point also tends to be an old person trait
 

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But the goldfish-bowl nature of modern life is definitely a new and troubling thing. When I went over the handlebars of my bike, a few years back (messed up fitting my brake cable) my first thought wasn't "that tarmac looks hard" or "I hope that bus behind me stops in time", but "I hope none of those kids at the bus-stop there have their phone camera out, because I bet I look pretty stupid".
I had the same thought. It's a different world with social media and cameras available to everyone. That's good in the case of catching cop bullshit and other similar things that would remain hidden, but for the average joe being public with every thought and whim is basically just asking for it. Once out there, it's out there for good. I know for a fact that workplaces will scour social media for info on job candidates, something to keep in mind. And for celebrities I guess "growing your brand" is worth the inevitable foot-in-mouth disease that most of them come down with at some point unless they just stay completely bland.

The older I get the less "Conservative" and religious I get, so there's that. The only time I would have considered voting GOP was right after college. Young and dumb I guess
 
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cytg111

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Straying somewhat from the point also tends to be an old person trait
Maybe. The point I was getting at is that we're able to hold each other to an account that is not realistic - because everything we do is on file now - and that ties perfectly into the video of the young woman going viral and thus fucking her life forever. Privacy. Right to be forgotten.
 

mikeymikec

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Maybe. The point I was getting at is that we're able to hold each other to an account that is not realistic - because everything we do is on file now - and that ties perfectly into the video of the young woman going viral and thus fucking her life forever. Privacy. Right to be forgotten.

And my point is that just because the information exists does not mean that it will continue to affect peoples' emotions/judgements on any given matter beyond say the next few weeks. To hold a grudge requires memory + emotion.

If peoples' memories were as good as you suggest with the assistance of technology, politicians / political parties reputations would have been utterly toasted many times over since the dawn of the Internet age. And these are things that people in general should be remembering!
 

cytg111

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And my point is that just because the information exists does not mean that it will continue to affect peoples' emotions/judgements on any given matter beyond say the next few weeks. To hold a grudge requires memory + emotion.

If peoples' memories were as good as you suggest with the assistance of technology, politicians / political parties reputations would have been utterly toasted many times over since the dawn of the Internet age. And these are things that people in general should be remembering!
God damn that mikeymikec is pissing me off.

Hey Zoro: Find anything this fool mikeymikec has done in the past 10 years that that might be crossing social norms at the time.

A day later the agent returns with all your bs.

And even without AI you're still only good as far as you dont run for office or gets in any position of power, cause then the digging starts.
 

mikeymikec

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God damn that mikeymikec is pissing me off.

Hey Zoro: Find anything this fool mikeymikec has done in the past 10 years that that might be crossing social norms at the time.

A day later the agent returns with all your bs.

And even without AI you're still only good as far as you dont run for office or gets in any position of power, cause then the digging starts.

The tools/sources have changed but the results in this woman's case would be the same, no?

There are scenarios in which what you're saying is valid:

1 - a person pretending to be something they're not (e.g. this woman continuing to be a racist moron and trying to act like she's not in order to successfully apply for something).

2 - a person applying for something where the people making the decision are utterly intolerant of any blemish on their record.

2a - lazy HR-type staff screening applications (which has been immensely problematic even without looking for dirt under peoples' nails)

In the rest of cases though, I think because of the 'wealth of information' (and I'm using this term very loosely), people making the decisions are going to be disregarding a lot more 'information' than they ever did (or at least not making giant assumptions about say a person in their thirties based on something they said in their late teens / early twenties).

In your point about a position of power though, if a candidate is trying to pass for something other than GQP/conservative/far-right, that dumb thing they said decades ago actually makes for a good talking point to bring across their sincerity to would-be voters.
 
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