More proof marketing works. Still that is more being susceptible to marketing than a true con.
More proof marketing works. Still that is more being susceptible to marketing than a true con.Eh... You might think that, but let me share an anecdote I saw the other day: I saw someone talking about asking if it was wise to drop nearly $50k cash on a 7-person SUV that their wife wanted but didn't really need. In fact, he said he'd be happy with just a Camry. But, it seems like he wouldn't exactly hold a conversation with his spouse to discuss pros and cons of dropping so much money on such an unnecessary purchase.
who the fuck would buy a car from this certifiably insane person? He is literally promoting a half-baked FSD that kills people
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That doesn't help the kid that gets ran over by the car using it.You can buy the car and not use the FSD if you have concerns.
That doesn't help the kid that gets ran over by the car using it.
That doesn't help the kid that gets ran over by the car using it.
Grr forum insists on changing the url to media.Which kid got hit by a Tesla using FSD?
I read that too, though I can't find the article right now. It said they're reducing hours and shortening shifts, even at the CT plant. I thought there were 1000's of pre-orders for CT to be filled though?starting to look like CT deliveries are on pause
Found an article about the CT pause, it's an issue with a sticky accelerator pedal.starting to look like CT deliveries are on pause
Plenty of test videos showing it'll happy mow over a kid. The bigger point is that all other road users can't "opt out" of FSD when some Elon fanboy chooses to opt in.Which kid got hit by a Tesla using FSD?
Plenty of test videos showing it'll happy mow over a kid. The bigger point is that all other road users can't "opt out" of FSD when some Elon fanboy chooses to opt in.
This systems need to have universal testing and quality control requirements before they are unleashed onto the public, but obviously that might be too much burden on one of the top killing industries in the US.
I would guess that for most it was like any other fashion accessory or status symbol, the value is in displaying it or telling others you have it.I agree. Most people paying 15K for a car addon, on an already high priced car, should be sophisticated enough to do some research and thought.
Hell no. One of my biggest dreams is to nap in the car while getting from A to B.I would guess that for most it was like any other fashion accessory or status symbol, the value is in displaying it or telling others you have it.
Yes, I am very confident that automated driving that is safer than human driving is technologically achievable and when it is achieved it will be a huge benefit in both labor savings, efficiency, and lives saved.Hell no. One of my biggest dreams is to nap in the car while getting from A to B.
Yep. To me, self driving means just that; other than telling the car the destination, the driver can take a nap. Anything less and I want full control. I can't imagine anything more stressful than spending my entire time behind the wheel wondering if the autopilot is going to f' up each particular situation. It would be like teaching a teenager to drive every time you got in the car.Hell no. One of my biggest dreams is to nap in the car while getting from A to B.
Some lucky ones spent as little as $4k on FSD? (Can't remember the low water mark, their autonomous driving schemes have undergone many sales revisions.) IIRC FSD was never transferable, except Tesla occasionally did carve-outs to juice select new vehicle sales.
Whatever happened to Elon suggesting he would raise FSD pricing into the mid 5 figures because that's how valuable robotaxis are to their owners? But yeah charging just $99 monthly for FSD seems like a big fuck you to the paying beta testers. Unless it's just a temporary ploy for marketing (and even then), it doesn't seem to make sense.
How we should feel about people falling for obvious cons really depends on the con and the victims. For example, we should have sympathy for people who get wrecked by (used) auto loans at usury rates even if they're flunking the very basics of personal finance.
To each his own. I would neve use it or pay for it, though I know people who would buy it just because it's a new gadget.Hell no. One of my biggest dreams is to nap in the car while getting from A to B.
One of my biggest dreams is to have a non-car dependent society so I can nap in a high speed train to wherever I'm going.Hell no. One of my biggest dreams is to nap in the car while getting from A to B.
While I agree, I see the bigger problem in the United States (even more than the engineering challenge), is the legal challenge.Yes, I am very confident that automated driving that is safer than human driving is technologically achievable and when it is achieved it will be a huge benefit in both labor savings, efficiency, and lives saved.
While I agree, I see the bigger problem in the United States (even more than the engineering challenge), is the legal challenge.
Lawyers will work to destroy such automated driving - going after everyone involved in such software for every accident (even if such accidents are far fewer than human driving), and likely collecting into class action suits. Although I have been surprised by how few the lawsuits have been against Tesla, so far.
Oh yes, definitely. If automated cars drop driving fatalities 90% but those remaining 10% are negligent/horrifying/whatever we're going to have a big problem.While I agree, I see the bigger problem in the United States (even more than the engineering challenge), is the legal challenge.
Lawyers will work to destroy such automated driving - going after everyone involved in such software for every accident (even if such accidents are far fewer than human driving), and likely collecting into class action suits. Although I have been surprised by how few the lawsuits have been against Tesla, so far.
Ill take personal transport instead of over crowded disease sharing community transits any day thanks .One of my biggest dreams is to have a non-car dependent society so I can nap in a high speed train to wherever I'm going.