NV Super refresh reviews

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Not particularly excited by any of these as the cards are still overpriced. If they'd release a 12GB 4060 for $199, that'd be more interesting.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Not particularly excited by any of these as the cards are still overpriced. If they'd release a 12GB 4060 for $199, that'd be more interesting.
Too bad AMD's not too exciting either. $500 for a 6800 XT with a little lower power consumption. 🤬
 

Jaskalas

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A consumer breakdown of the new 4x00 cards would be....
  • 4k: $999 4080 Super
  • 1440p: $799 4070 Ti Super
  • 1080p: $599 4070 Super
I look forward to seeing if the next gen cards move this new price to performance standard. Taking minimum VRAM requirements into account.
 
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EXCellR8

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Gaming at 1080p? RTX 20 series, heck even GTX 10/16 series will get you by there. Save your money and buy more pixel space lol
 
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coercitiv

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So now we know how Nvidia values upgrades in 2024:
1280 Shading Units --> $50
8GB VRAM --> $100
 

Saylick

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Not particularly excited by any of these as the cards are still overpriced. If they'd release a 12GB 4060 for $199, that'd be more interesting.
We all knew that the 4090 had the best perf/$ improvement coming from Ampere (the 4080 was especially egregiously bad in terms of perf/$ improvement), and all this Super lineup does is align the sub-4090 SKUs from a bang/buck perspective with the 4090 itself. These Super SKUs and prices are what we should have got from the start imo, but of course Nvidia can and will milk early adopters for all they're worth.
 

tamz_msc

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Aaah, we have a $2000 enthusiast here folks. Look at him, native boy, no dlss and no cheap frames in sight. Make room!
I thought most people in these forums really dislike using upscaling tech and fake frames, but bemoan that one has to empty their wallets to not make these compromises.
 

coercitiv

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I thought most people in these forums really dislike using upscaling tech and fake frames, but bemoan that one has to empty their wallets to not make these compromises.
I'm one of those people, hence the $2000 enthusiast joke because I doubt you grasped the magnitude of what you were asking for. I'm also not a fan of RT, not in the form Nvidia is trying to push anyway. If you want RT and native 1440p then the 4090 is the only 1440p card today. That's how fast the carrot is moving.

 

Timorous

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We all knew that the 4090 had the best perf/$ improvement coming from Ampere (the 4080 was especially egregiously bad in terms of perf/$ improvement), and all this Super lineup does is align the sub-4090 SKUs from a bang/buck perspective with the 4090 itself. These Super SKUs and prices are what we should have got from the start imo, but of course Nvidia can and will milk early adopters for all they're worth.

Yup. 4070 Ti should have been cut AD103 from the off. $800 for a 12GB card is pretty awful.

Yup, and unfortunately AMD is following along like a cute little puppy. Woof!

I don't like it either. Atleast AMD are using stacked bar charts so you can compare native Vs native.
 
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blckgrffn

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All this upscaling garbage is because of ray tracing, no other reason. And virtually every internet tech poll shows the majority of people don't want ray tracing.

For my part, and not the first or last time I am saying this is that Nvidia had a solution in search of a problem with the RTX and all those compute resources they put on consumer parts that otherwise would sit unused. Fancy upscaling and RT just played their part as they tried to steer the market to fit their own narrative.

It seems to have worked pretty well. Reading reviews at Toms, Ars, etc. you'd think these technologies are critical to the future compared to just having more raster performance and plenty of vram available.

@tamz_msc I was teasing you based on the ongoing discussion in the 8GB vram thread. It's worth a glance if you haven't read it. Be aware it just... keeps... going
 

Golgatha

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The only card here worth looking at is the 4070 Ti Super, and only because it finally puts the 4070 series with a 256bit bus, like it should have had on day 1. The other two cards are still a horrible value and overpriced, just less so than the garbage that's been released below the original 4090.
 

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sigh....
Its again, lets add the words Super, and keep the super inflated prices for them.

I would of prefered they rebrand all the cards with D, and give them to us at a discounted price.
Gpu prices are too inflated now, with most of them costing more then the CPU + Motherboard they were intended to be run with.

After Super comes Ultra tho.
So if Nvidia drops Ultra, you know they getting deperate.
 

nOOky

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sigh....
Its again, lets add the words Super, and keep the super inflated prices for them.

I would of prefered they rebrand all the cards with D, and give them to us at a discounted price.
Gpu prices are too inflated now, with most of them costing more then the CPU + Motherboard they were intended to be run with.

After Super comes Ultra tho.
So if Nvidia drops Ultra, you know they getting deperate.
I had a 6800 Ultra from Leadtek I think it was. What an absolute beast, physically and performance-wise. If the 4070 Super was close to the price of the 7800XT I bought 3 months and available I probably would have went with it. I've had a few driver problems with the 7800XT although it seems flawless otherwise.
 
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beginner99

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I thought most people in these forums really dislike using upscaling tech and fake frames, but bemoan that one has to empty their wallets to not make these compromises.
Soon there will be another option but it's also gonna be costly. Some new OLED displays will allow to change resolution from 4k to 1080p on button click. So you get the sweet desktop space for anything not gaming and don't need to pay an arm and leg on the gpu. but then 1080p on a 32" screen might look pretty bad.
 

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Soon there will be another option but it's also gonna be costly. Some new OLED displays will allow to change resolution from 4k to 1080p on button click. So you get the sweet desktop space for anything not gaming and don't need to pay an arm and leg on the gpu. but then 1080p on a 32" screen might look pretty bad.

I don't get it. How is this different from setting the resolution in the game settings to 1080p?
 
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