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Tup3x

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Soon there will be another option but it's also gonna be costly. Some new OLED displays will allow to change resolution from 4k to 1080p on button click. So you get the sweet desktop space for anything not gaming and don't need to pay an arm and leg on the gpu. but then 1080p on a 32" screen might look pretty bad.
Integer scaling has been a thing for a while for GPUs (though, who knows if the display would just use the typical interpolation methods). The only benefit is the ability use higher refresh rate since less bandwidth is required.

1080p already looks horrible on anything larger than ~21". For high refresh rates 1440p displays are much better options.
 
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Pathetic cooling solution on the FE. Boy, does this company love to save cents and pass on the RTX/DLSS R&D costs to its loyal customers.
 

Ranulf

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Wizzard's review there is interesting overall but regarding the cooling his conclusion is a bit confusing. A pro for the card is "good temperatures" but a con is "relatively weak cooler" and "noise levels a tad bit high".
 
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Wizzard's review there is interesting overall but regarding the cooling his conclusion is a bit confusing. A pro for the card is "good temperatures" but a con is "relatively weak cooler" and "noise levels a tad bit high".
Maybe he wants to convey the message that the temperatures are "good" despite the "relatively weak cooler". A loyal customer would be delighted to see the word "good" and rationalize that they wouldn't be able to hear the noise over a typical game's pumping audio anyway. Insta-buy!
 

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The real standouts there are the Gainward Ghost and PNY Verto for being especially terrible.
 

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Boy, does this company love to save cents and pass on the RTX/DLSS R&D costs to its loyal customers.
Just like AMD skimped on their cooling on the flagship RDNA 3 card right? Right??

I really don’t get this Nvidia bias on this site.
 
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Maybe he wants to convey the message that the temperatures are "good" despite the "relatively weak cooler". A loyal customer would be delighted to see the word "good" and rationalize that they wouldn't be able to hear the noise over a typical game's pumping audio anyway. Insta-buy!
Alternatively, for those who can read between the lines it could be a "this card's cooler is poor" but "I don't want to offend the PR juggernaut".

Or a circle is square, I guess!

EDIT: judging from W1zzard's immediate defence of 12VHPWR with "exact same connector and adapter cable, which has been used successfully millions of times", I suspect not offending Nvidia is the name of the game.
 
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Tup3x

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It's that's poor then how about Gigabyte (Windforce)? Fans run >2100 RPM under full load.
 

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That was an engineering snafu. Someone didn't do the proper due diligence. The FE cooling inadequacy is all about saving money.

Meh, maybe those are both pretty much the same thing.

In general, neither company needs our defense. We expect more when we are paying more, so much more than we once did. I think that's just how it is.
 

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No different, simply means AMD cheaped out QA.

A YouTuber caught the problem and AMD with all their testing couldn’t,
either means that either they found it and still released the product or they didn’t do enough in-depth testing.
Are you talking about the 12VHPWR connector or...

Yeah, Nvidia is innocent alright.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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No different, simply means AMD cheaped out QA.

A YouTuber caught the problem and AMD with all their testing couldn’t,
either means that either they found it and still released the product or they didn’t do enough in-depth testing.

- Not rocket science, people just like the underdog, and gawd damn is AMD the underdog in the GPU market.

When AMD screws up, the rationalizations come easy: They have a fraction of NV's marketshare, their primary business is CPUs, their GPU R&D is flowing into high margin parts like CDNA etc...

When NV screws up, its hard to apply those same rationalizations to the company with ~85% market share, whose sole focus is on GPUs, with a Trillion $ + marketcap alongside the likes of Google and Apple.

In short, we sorta expect AMD to cut corners because honestly they have to. NV should not be cutting any corners anywhere at all for what they are.
 

Hitman928

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- Not rocket science, people just like the underdog, and gawd damn is AMD the underdog in the GPU market.

When AMD screws up, the rationalizations come easy: They have a fraction of NV's marketshare, their primary business is CPUs, their GPU R&D is flowing into high margin parts like CDNA etc...

When NV screws up, its hard to apply those same rationalizations to the company with ~85% market share, whose sole focus is on GPUs, with a Trillion $ + marketcap alongside the likes of Google and Apple.

In short, we sorta expect AMD to cut corners because honestly they have to. NV should not be cutting any corners anywhere at all for what they are.

Nvidia is also positioned as the premium brand in the marketplace, which is great for them, but it also raises expectations.
 

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The funny part is this would've been the launch segmentation if RDNA3 worked as intended.
Mind you, they had to do this refresh, it is yet another very well calculated plan. I'll let you lot speculate on why it is clever.
 

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Soon there will be another option but it's also gonna be costly. Some new OLED displays will allow to change resolution from 4k to 1080p on button click. So you get the sweet desktop space for anything not gaming and don't need to pay an arm and leg on the gpu. but then 1080p on a 32" screen might look pretty bad.
I am using a 32" screen for gaming. It has only 1080p and I don't see a problem, but I never played at a higher resolution than that so can't really compare.
 

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But would they warranty it?

Tommy Boy - If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed I will. I've got spare time.
4070 was already selling like gangbusters, the 4070 Super will put more of a squeeze on AMD.
Exactly right. 7800XT had the best reception and maybe even sales, of the RDNA3 lineup. But at the present pricing you have to have staunch brand loyalty to pick it over either the vanilla or super 4070.

Daniel-San compared the vanilla and now the super; I'd buy either over my 7800XT if I was shopping today.

 

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Jeff compares with the 3090, 2080ti. Titan XP, and 6900XT -

 

AtenRa

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Tommy Boy - If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed I will. I've got spare time.

Exactly right. 7800XT had the best reception and maybe even sales, of the RDNA3 lineup. But at the present pricing you have to have staunch brand loyalty to pick it over either the vanilla or super 4070.

Daniel-San compared the vanilla and now the super; I'd buy either over my 7800XT if I was shopping today.


7900GRE would be a perfect competitor to 4070 Super if AMD would sold it globally. New price for 7900 GRE at $549 , only problem is the availability otherwise it could easily compete against 4070 Super.


 
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