Discussion RTX 4090 reviews

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amenx

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Comprehensive roundup:
 
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jpiniero

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AMD might actually take the raster performance crown and if they can match Ampere for the RT fps drop that 16-20% increase in raster will be enough for it to outright win there too.

This isn't the highest Ada card though. The 4090 Ti is probably another 20-30% assuming it's at 600 W.
 

DiogoDX

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At 1440p with no RT, it's going to be a bit CPU limited which will drop the power consumption. Running 4K, I would expect the power consumption to increase though it's unlikely to hit the GN numbers. Just speculation, but for maxed out 4K numbers, it's probably just about in the middle, meaning around 400W. Derbauer showed 422W in Time Spy Extreme but average gaming will probably be slightly lower than that.
Card is CPU limited on 1440 in many cases. Computerbase also tested this.

Doom Eternal: 1440p = 356W , 4K = 432W



 

Mopetar

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Frankly you should only be buying something like this if you want to game at 4K with Ultra settings or RT. It's not really worth it for anything less than that.

This thing is beefy enough that you don't even need to use DLSS to get acceptable FPS in a lot of games.
 

fleshconsumed

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My feelings for nvidia aside, 4090 is a beast of a card. 4K gaming with ultra settings and RT enabled at 60fps or higher. Significantly faster than 3090ti while having same or lower power consumption. And fairly quiet too with fans spinning at 1600rpm. If you ignore MSRP and performance/dollar this is super impressive card.

However, taking MSRP and performance/dollar into account, this is on par with 30xx/6900 series current pricing. Sure, it's 70-100% faster, but it's also proportionately more expensive. We are once again in a situation where we don't really get improvement in performance/dollar metric. Want 2x performance? Just pay 2x more. As a budget gamer this makes me sad and worried for the future of gaming. Hoping things will get better for budget/midrange gamers over the next few years. At the very least I'd love to see similar performance uplift in the budget/midrange while keeping MSRP mostly same as previous gen, but again, I have serious doubts about it happening.
 
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CakeMonster

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The CPU bottlenecks are certainly the most interesting part of the reviews.

I'm also awaiting more in depth research of DLSS3, but considering latency and possible artifacts I'd lean toward using DLSS2 on a lower setting instead for now.
 

CakeMonster

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As a budget gamer this makes me sad and worried for the future of gaming. Hoping things will get better for budget/midrange gamers over the next few years.
It's coming, its just progressively more delayed, with Ampere NV started delaying the lower cards even more to earn more money, and the Lovelace lower cards will arrive, eventuall, with good value. The problem is that people who upgraded every X years will have to add time to their upgrade schedule along with the inflation, making for a huge and frustrating gap in the upgrading schedule.
 

fleshconsumed

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It's coming, its just progressively more delayed, with Ampere NV started delaying the lower cards even more to earn more money, and the Lovelace lower cards will arrive, eventuall, with good value. The problem is that people who upgraded every X years will have to add time to their upgrade schedule along with the inflation, making for a huge and frustrating gap in the upgrading schedule.
I know that lower tier cards are coming, but 4080/16 is $1200 and 4080/12 is $900 which is still way more than I would ever want to spend on a videocard. Prior to 2017 my ideal budget was $200-300. I sort of bumped it up to $400-500 by getting 3070FE, but unless AMD really surprises us, there is a strong possibility that $400-500 will only get me N33 and I'm not paying that much for an entry level video card.
 

Dribble

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The CPU bottlenecks are certainly the most interesting part of the reviews.

I'm also awaiting more in depth research of DLSS3, but considering latency and possible artifacts I'd lean toward using DLSS2 on a lower setting instead for now.
wccftech did a test, they get very low latency numbers. Not sure if I believe them, but I do think the jury is still out on whether latency is a problem.
 

amenx

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Comprehensive roundup. For anyone looking for particular reviewers or languages that may suit you:

and der8auer exploring the power fundamentals.
 
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biostud

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I still don't understand how it is x2.78 times transistors, that runs with ~40-45% higher boost clocks compared to a 3090Ti, and does not achieve double frame rates under a normal 4K situation.
 

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I still don't understand how it is x2.78 times transistors, that runs with ~40-45% higher boost clocks compared to a 3090Ti, and does not achieve double frame rates under a normal 4K situation.
CPU limits are a thing at 4k now for the first time. I think we will see 2x + as more UE5 games and higher end RTX games get released
 

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I'm waiting for a further 3090 Ti FE price drop but based on a review I read on the 4090, the 4090 consumes less power than the 3090 Ti. I have a Seasonic GX 850W power supply and a Ryzen 5800x CPU and I plan on upgrading to either a 7800X3D or a 13700K shortly after they release. Is it most likely that I might need to buy a new power supply if I get a 3090 Ti but won't have to if I get the 4090? I figure if I'm going to have to buy a new power supply for the 3090 Ti and no further price drop on the 3090 Ti that I might as well just upgrade to the 4090 instead and continue using my current power supply if this is the case.
 
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n0x1ous

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I'm waiting for a further 3090 Ti FE price drop but based on a review I read on the 4090, the 4090 consumes less power than the 3090 Ti. I have a Seasonic GX 850W power supply. Is it most likely that I might need to buy a new power supply if I get a 3090 Ti but won't have to if I get the 4090? I figure if I'm going to have to buy a new power supply for the 3090 Ti and no further price drop on the 3090 that I might as well just upgrade to the 4090 instead and not buy a new power supply if this is the case.
both have 450w TDP so your 850w should be fine with either. Appropriate adapters to 8pin pci-e are included in both cards boxes
 

moonbogg

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Enough performance here to allow some amazing and efficient mid range cards later on. Could be good times if the competition is there. If it's not there, then oh well. Spend the money I guess?
 

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Idk if y'all agree with me here, but I am of the belief that 4K @ 144 Hz w/ VRR is pretty much all anyone will need for the foreseeable future, i.e. you get diminishing returns at higher resolution and refresh rates. The flagship GPUs of this generation will pretty much get us there for non-RT heavy games, so it seems like buying one of them this time around will likely last you far longer than previous generations where we didn't quite hit the same level of diminishing returns w.r.t. monitor tech. Should we expect that GPUs focus mainly on RT improvements rather than raster performance from here on out?
 
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