Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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fskimospy

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China hasn't invaded all these years so what makes you think they will? It's all war mongering and trying to portray China as the aggressor and portraying little old America as the kind savior of the world. China is not the one playing aggressive games off the coast of America.

How dare Chinese aircraft fly so close to Chinese airspace, with the great Americans nearby! It must be very interesting if we see Chinese ships and jets near Cuba for instance, flying near American jets. I am sure the US media will not be freaking out! LOL

Do you have reading comprehension problems?
 

raildogg

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No, I simply answered your ridiculous question.

China is not a reckless aggressive country. They will make a calculated decision but for now there is no Taiwan invasion. But as I've stated, America keeps harassing the Chinese in China's own backyard.
 
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fskimospy

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No, I simply answered your ridiculous question.

China is not a reckless aggressive country. They will make a calculated decision but for now there is no Taiwan invasion. But as I've stated, America keeps harassing the Chinese in China's own backyard.
Well then great. We agree that if China invades Taiwan it’s China’s fault.
 

Muse

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China hasn't invaded all these years so what makes you think they will? It's all war mongering and trying to portray China as the aggressor and portraying little old America as the kind savior of the world. China is not the one playing aggressive games off the coast of America.

How dare Chinese aircraft fly so close to Chinese airspace, with the great Americans nearby! It must be very interesting if we see Chinese ships and jets near Cuba for instance, flying near American jets. I am sure the US media will not be freaking out! LOL

TROLL ALERT, this guy is a parasite.
 

Muse

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No, I simply answered your ridiculous question.

China is not a reckless aggressive country. They will make a calculated decision but for now there is no Taiwan invasion. But as I've stated, America keeps harassing the Chinese in China's own backyard.
So, who's been sending spy balloons over America? Guess who! CHINA!
 

Ajay

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I do not know what his sourcing is for this though.
Not yet, IMHO. Some EU countries are preparing to do what is necessary if Trump gets elected. That's how I've been reading the news, I could be wrong ofc.
 

kage69

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No, I simply answered your ridiculous question.

China is not a reckless aggressive country. They will make a calculated decision but for now there is no Taiwan invasion. But as I've stated, America keeps harassing the Chinese in China's own backyard.


It's like you want us to believe you have brain damage. You appear to know even less about China than you do about Russia, and that is no small feat.

Not an aggressive country? It's threatening to "re unite" with a country it's never ruled over. Tell that to Falun Gong, the Vietnamese, the Indians, the Uighurs and the Filipinos. Damn you are fucked in the head.

China the bully blasting others with water cannons, been going on for some time. It's way past time to pull your head out of your ass cyka, try to start posting things that have something to do with reality. China is the only country harassing anyone in international waters or EEZs. China is the most belligerent actor in Asia right now, that's a fact. They're still throwing a fit about their insane claims being rejected by the world. China is the only one ignoring the Hague Ruling (after saying they'd abide by it). You'd know this if you cared about facts rather than being a shill for fascist dictators. Can't wait to support another invasion that tries to stomp out an entire nation and culture, can you?

Some nice footage of China not being aggressive and reckless at all. Nahhh.

 
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Ajay

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Nothing official yet, but the French (Gen Pierre Schill, specifically) have said they are ready to put in a division of 20k within 30 days of getting the d'accord. Also willing to take it 60k too. Not combat troops; support guys and guards mostly, so meaningful numbers of AFU are freed up to head East.

France is now trying to emphasize a need for EU boots to help, rather than NATO boots, and wants to take the lead since Germany won't. Listening to them talk about the realities of Putin's agenda, as well as renewed Russian efforts, makes me think they're going to do it. Czechs and Poles have voiced support for the idea, they will be there if the French are. Count on it.
Thanks. This is what I’ve wanted from the US for a while. Logistical presence, air defense to protect US military personnel (which also protects Ukrainians). And an appropriately sized combat contingent for basic self defense. We would be able to protect some key cities in the west, including Kyiv, and complicate Russian calculus in the extreme. If we won’t do it - all power to a coalition of EU countries that will. Enough pussyfooting around as if Russia has nothing to lose.
 
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Jaskalas

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Thanks. This is what I’ve wanted from the US for a while. Logistical presence, air defense to protect US military personnel (which also protects Ukrainians). And an appropriately sized combat contingent for basic self defense. We would be able to protect some key cities in the west, including Kyiv, and complicate Russian calculus in the extreme. If we won’t do it - all power to a coalition of EU countries that will. Enough pussyfooting around as if Russia has nothing to lose.
NATO should hold the right bank of the Dnipro.
Would solve a lot of the refugee crisis that Russia is poised to make far worse.
 

kage69

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No reasonable way to stop them. Russia however - very reasonable means to stop them.

Idk, having a brittle country that imports almost all of it's food and energy represents a multitude of things to fuck up and stop, to disastrous effect. I think it's salient to note that numerically superior Russia is proving quite stoppable in Ukraine, and that's with hundreds of km of shared border, rather than a huge moat. The Chinese military has a fraction of the experience of the Russian military does, and shares many core weapon designs and technology thanks to that very Chinese combo of purchase and IP theft. You can extrapolate a lot of fail from that, plus they will be having to deal directly with Japan and America as well, not just Taiwanese defenders.
 
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Drach

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The fact that raildogg can post here is .........
I am literally in tears right now.
Thank god for him giving his opinion.
Boots on the ground . This has steped over the red line.
 
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kage69

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So, who's been sending spy balloons over America? Guess who! CHINA!

Meh. We spy on them and they spy on us. We've sent all kinds of things over China, and since the 60s.

I'm more concerned about CCP starting a war in the SCS over territorial claims as illegitimate as they are ridiculous, also their contempt for safety at sea or in the air. Chinese have an international reputation as ass ho, not just for swamping Filipino support boats or their delicate and imperious political sensitivities, but for their habit of ramming things, of trying to use lasers to blind non Chinese pilots. They try to damage and trap foreign subs in international waters by stringing maritime chains between underwater ridges, like a big clothes line.

No one else does this shit.
 
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raildogg

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The fact that raildogg can post here is .........
I am literally in tears right now.
Thank god for him giving his opinion.
Boots on the ground . This has steped over the red line.
You are revealing your inner control freak - very Stalin-like behavior, right? Please, I would not be upset if I am banned, not sure why but go ahead. This is not the only place I visit for interactions, etc.

Anyways, you don't deserve any more response than this.

On to China because this was mentioned:

China's backyard is China's backyard. America is arming countries in China's backyard, creating frictions, creating animosities, etc. This is verifiable fact, not my opinion. Philippines has been relatively fine with China for years but now America wants to build base there and arm it up. This is America poking at China, dangerous move. There are disputes but let these countries handle them.

America needs to realize that China is good at trade and economical relations. Look at these Asian countries - who is their biggest trade partner? I mean, without China many of these nations would be simply hurting. So they naturally want good relations with China. So point is America is stirring up trouble, once again, in another country's backyard.

As for India, well the British messed things up by drawing bad maps. What else is new, right? They have border fights, but so does India-Pakistan (another mess created by British). India has border disputes with other neighbors as well, so this not unique.
 

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Moldovia Knows What Happens When You Do a Deal With Russia


"A small western neighbor of Ukraine, Moldova experienced Russia’s first post-Soviet war of aggression, which ended with a cease-fire agreement in 1992. Thirty-two years later, 1,500 Russian troops are still stationed on internationally recognized Moldovan territory, despite the Kremlin’s formal agreement to withdraw them in 1994 and then once again in 1999. The case shows that Russia simply cannot be trusted.

But there’s a bigger problem for Ukraine than Russian untrustworthiness. It’s that freezing a conflict, without a full peace deal, simply does not work. For three decades, it has fractured Moldova, hindered national development and given Russia continued opportunities to meddle with Moldovan life. A frozen conflict, we should remember, is still a conflict. Anyone calling for Ukraine to settle for one should heed Moldova’s cautionary tale."

^^^ @raildogg Care to respond?
 
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