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Then in 3 years from now they'll decide they want to switch to another solution.
I don't think they will switch. Don't know what it is but Microsoft seems to keep their corporate customers. There's just no other competitor in this space. Everyone else is too small and doesn't have the name recognition for people making the big decisions. They play it safe by staying with Microsoft. We switched in 2015 and there's no end in sight. Not unless someone with charisma comes in IT and sways the non-technical bigwigs towards some other alternative.
 

Kaido

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I don't think they will switch. Don't know what it is but Microsoft seems to keep their corporate customers. There's just no other competitor in this space. Everyone else is too small and doesn't have the name recognition for people making the big decisions. They play it safe by staying with Microsoft. We switched in 2015 and there's no end in sight. Not unless someone with charisma comes in IT and sways the non-technical bigwigs towards some other alternative.

I recently had a customer switch to Google for their backend, but wanted to keep Office. Turns out Gmail as email works fine with Outlook, but you can't sync calendars! The procedure is:

1. Go into your Google Calendar settings
2. Copy the secret address in iCal format (which is disabled by default & has to be turned on by a G Suite admin)
3. "Subscribe" to the calendar in Outlook (despite already having synced your Gmail for email), which enables 2-way sync

SPECIAL NOTE: IT TAKES 24 TO 48 HOURS TO SYNC UPDATES FROM OUTLOOK TO GOOGLE CALENDAR VIA SUBSCRIPTION!

If you want real-time syncing, you have to go through a third-party service like OneCal, which charges a per-user monthly fee for real-time syncing! I had a client the other day go through this at an even more extreme level: their corporate overlords switched to Google Workspace & their branch was using O365 on a paid monthly subscription. So now the company as a whole is paying for both Office in the cloud AND Gmail for business in the cloud and they're stuck with 24+ hour Google Calendar subscription syncing in Outlook 365 for desktop! Which, btw, overwrote their LIFETIME LICENSES for LTSC Office 2021 from their previous upgrade, lol! (they wanted to enable multi-user Office file editing, initially)

A.I. is doing a lot of really neat stuff, but we're so entrenched in historical compliance requirements that changing is a costly pain for a lot of companies. I still have clients buying up old lifetime licenses of Adobe Acrobat Pro because they don't want to deal with the modern subscription fees, so they dual-install an old permanently-licensed version of Acrobat & then install the updated Adobe Viewer to read more up-to-date PDF files. Even HP wants to get in on the action:


 
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Kaido

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They recently switched to O365 at work too, not a fan of it but w/e it's just work. Not something I'd want at home though, I rather my data to be 100% on prem. Although it still appears to have an actual local client, and you can still open files, but not really sure how it works, like if the files are just pointers and the actual data is in the cloud now. I downloaded our work schedule from sharepoint and tried to make a temporary change and it was warning me that I was editing the live copy. That's the other thing they've done is they're trying to force everything to sharepoint/cloud now. They killed off our user drive a while back and recently set our department drive read only, and it looks like they will remove it soon. We have TONS of documentation and stuff, not all of it is office documents either. Some executable programs and what not as well. Doubt we can upload that to sharepoint. It would be insane trying to input all of that to sharepoint one by one anyway. Then in 3 years from now they'll decide they want to switch to another solution. So spend all that time only to have to do it over again. They never leave stuff alone.

Good luck...welcome to your new Windows 365 Cloud PC!


They're not messing around:


Windows App is available for Windows, macOS, iOS and iPadOS, and web browsers.


Multiple monitor support for iPad and Mac.

Plus:

soon you’ll see AI playing even a bigger role.

Microsoft is playing it VERY smart by integrating Copilot into Windows & Office, as pretty soon you can just "google" everything you digitally own & literally talk to it to have it assist you in whatever you're trying to do:


There are lots of great cloud PC's for DCC, gaming, etc. like Liquid Sky, Shadow, etc., but Microsoft is making it easy & convenient to just pay for a Cloud VM of your desktop to run on any device you want with however much horsepower you want. 5G is getting pretty standard, so it's getting more rare to not have good Internet access, even outside of fiber & cable connections. Good video to watch:

 

Kaido

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AI George Carlin comedy performance


Annnnnnd they're getting sued:


This gets tricky because Youtube is monetized, but also not quite the same as cable TV, Netflix, etc. Bette Midler won a major payout back in the 80s over the unauthorized commercial use of her voice:


Ford Motor Co. hired one of Midler’s backup singers to sing on a commercial – after Midler declined to do the ad – and asked her to sound as much like Midler as possible. It worked, and fooled a lot of people, including some close to Midler. Midler sued, and the court ruled that there was a misappropriation of Midler’s right of publicity to her singing voice.

The bottom line: Midler’s singing voice was hers to control. Ford had no right to use it without her permission. That lesson cost Ford a tidy $400,000. [my note: inflation calculator says that's just over a million bucks in today's money]


Decision
The appellate court ruled that the voice of someone famous as a singer is distinctive to their person and image and therefore, as a part of their identity, it is unlawful to imitate their voice without express consent and approval. The appellate court reversed the district courts decision and ruled in favor of Midler, indicating her voice was protected against unauthorized use.

Significance
A voice, or other distinctive uncopyrightable features, is deemed as part of someone's identity who is famous for that feature and is thus controllable against unauthorized use. Impersonation of a voice, or similarly distinctive feature, must be granted permission by the original artist for a public impersonation, even for copyrighted materials.
 

Kaido

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Jersey Mike’s Subs streamlines voice orders with AI:


They use SoundHound:


 

Kaido

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Kaido

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Wish they would give the option of a sleek, minimal resource hungry UI like the old gmail.

Here you go:


Installation steps: (no longer supported, but still available if you don't mind a manual installation)

1. Download the CRX from the Crx4Chrome link (allow Chrome to download the "suspicious" file, as it's an archived extension at this point from several years ago)
2. Open archive with 7zip (right-click the CRX, 7-zip > open archive) & extract to a folder
3. Go to Chrome settings > Tools > Extensions, click Enable Developer Mode in the top right corner, and then click Load Unpacked Extension & point it your extracted folder

Super simple, super speedy! Vintage graphics with high-speed scroll performance:

 

MrSquished

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Turns out AI art is a massive copywrite infringement nightmare and a bunch of shady shit in so many cases.

Who would have thunk it?

Humans are too greedy and too corrupt to not let AI fuck things up badly. Technology has advanced far too fast for the human brain. We were making progress in the world inch by inch, but technology is slowing that down, and even reversing it in some cases. It's never long-term thinking, it's always about short term gain.
 
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Kaido

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It's never long-term thinking, it's always about short term gain.

I call that "donuts right now" syndrome. Like if you're trying to go on a diet, but there are donuts available right now. In a capitalistic society, the incentives are strongly in place for short-term gains. Just cherry-picking some recent Google News headlines...we are kind of dumb as a society lol:












 
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Red Squirrel

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That's really it...even $7 a month for a single premium personal account gets you a terabyte of cloud storage, easy photo integration, and all of the Office apps on your phone, tablet, web browser at another computer, laptop, desktop, etc.


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Man that *IS* cheap if I consider the costs to run my server rack, so I can kinda see why companies are doing it. I would never want my personal stuff hosted off prem, but from a financial standpoint, it almost makes sense. My last NAS storage upgrade cost me around 2.5k, and my server rack costs maybe around $40/mo in hydro to run (very rough estimate). Mind you, I have like 40TB of storage and room to add more, and hosting lot of various environments that would be a pita to try to use via cloud, so I would never even consider cloud, but I can see why some people do it.
 

Kaido

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Man that *IS* cheap if I consider the costs to run my server rack, so I can kinda see why companies are doing it. I would never want my personal stuff hosted off prem, but from a financial standpoint, it almost makes sense. My last NAS storage upgrade cost me around 2.5k, and my server rack costs maybe around $40/mo in hydro to run (very rough estimate). Mind you, I have like 40TB of storage and room to add more, and hosting lot of various environments that would be a pita to try to use via cloud, so I would never even consider cloud, but I can see why some people do it.

Storage is crazy these days. You can get a 22TB USB drive for four hundred bucks these days:



Backblaze offers unlimited storage (online encrypted backup) for $9/mo lol:

 

Red Squirrel

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Storage is crazy these days. You can get a 22TB USB drive for four hundred bucks these days:

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Backblaze offers unlimited storage (online encrypted backup) for $9/mo lol:


Oh yeah it's crazy how cheap storage has gotten. For my NAS upgrade I got 8 10TB drives so 80TB of raw storage for only a few grand. Went with the WD RED versions which cost more than what they put in portable drives but still relatively cheap. I remember deploying a 60k SAN that only had a couple TB worth of space like 10ish years ago back when I was in IT. We were allowed to break up the old one and bring enclosures home, that SAN was like a million at the time. Now it's worthless. I don't even bother with it for my own stuff, but it was state of the art like 20 years ago.
 

Saylick

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OpenAI just announced their new text-to-video feature: https://openai.com/sora

Not sure how much I like this since we already live in a time full of misinformation, but if the masses have easy access to a tool like this, it's going to be a headache to regulate.
 
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Saylick

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At the risk of sounding like the anti-AI thread, this is purely going to prove the adage true that a lie can be halfway around the world before the truth can tie its shoes. Isn’t there another “law” that says it takes like an order of magnitude more effort to disprove BS than to generate it? I fear that we’re going to be so full speed ahead on AI that no one is accounting for the 10x more FLOPS needed to regulate itself.
 
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cytg111

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I think this is great. Within a few years we're gonna have disinformation tackled cause we have to, only authorized journalistic entities can stamp their content with signature and public key or some other measure that will enable us to verify legit sources of information.

AI content just pushes this over the edge. Well maybe not as much pushes as tossing at light speed, but the point is the same. The Fox News info centers of this time period is over.
 
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