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RPD

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So I'm playing StarCraft 2, the first game was why I almost failed my first year of college. But when they actually released SC2 I think Blizzard had some China shenanigans or something else that really turned me off so I did not ever buy or play it. Fast forward to now, I looked and was shocked it was free, so downloaded it and started playing because I am interested in how the story plays out.
 
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CP5670

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Been playing Syberia I for the last few days. An absolutely fantastic point & click adventure game. The story has me hooked. I had played it decades ago and thought before I pick up Syberia 3 (which I have been meaning to play for sometime now) I might as well go back and re-play the first two games in the series.

I played all the Syberia games at one point. They have beautiful artwork and backgrounds but the plot is thin and forgettable. I recall you meet some yeti like creatures eventually.
 

Fenixgoon

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So I'm playing StarCraft 2, the first game was why I almost failed my first year of college. But when they actually released SC2 I think Blizzard had some China shenanigans or something else that really turned me off so I did not ever buy or play it. Fast forward to now, I looked and was shocked it was free, so downloaded it and started playing because I am interested in how the story plays out.
Legacy of the Void is the best of the SC2 trilogy IMO. The campaign feels like a proper StarCraft campaign. But in terms of story I don't think SC2 holds a candle to SC1.
 

Stg-Flame

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So I'm playing StarCraft 2, the first game was why I almost failed my first year of college. But when they actually released SC2 I think Blizzard had some China shenanigans or something else that really turned me off so I did not ever buy or play it. Fast forward to now, I looked and was shocked it was free, so downloaded it and started playing because I am interested in how the story plays out.
I was the same way, although I did buy it on launch from Best Buy and played for only a few hours before I put it away. I can't recall what it was, but there was just something really off about the game when I first played it fresh out of the box. I ended up replaying through the trilogy a few years ago when we were all clearing our backlogs and couldn't put it down. No idea what changed between then and now, but the campaign was a lot of fun.
 

GodisanAtheist

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All I remember is that Blizz completely reconned the UED out of the lore, which kinda pissed me off.
 

Stg-Flame

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All I remember is that Blizz completely reconned the UED out of the lore, which kinda pissed me off.
I'd have to go back and replay SC/BW to catch back up on all the lore but I do remember when I replayed them a few years ago, there were a few questionable changes made to the lore within the campaign that I didn't particularly care for but the campaign was fun enough that I looked past it all.
 

sdifox

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I have hundreds of unplayed PC games. But I mostly play Hay Day on my phone or COD Mobile on my tablet xd
 
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GodisanAtheist

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UED? Maybe I'm in a good spot in that I have forgotten the finer points of the plot line.

-United Earth Directorate: basically the entire plot of Brood War revolves around Earth conquering the Terran colonies and enslaving the Hive Mind. Kerrigan tricks everyone into working for her, defeating the UED and killing the baby zerg hive mind so she takes control of the entire swarm and wipes everyone out.

It's also revealed that the Xel Naga are creating Protoss/Zerg hybrids as the cumination of their whole playing god thing, not sure that storyline goes anywhere since I've only ever played Wings of Liberty.
 

burninatortech4

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I've been playing lots of Stellaris and Hearts of Iron 3 lately (HoI 4 doesn't interest me). Something about 4X Paradox games... lots of fun to be had.
 

Zeze

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Wait wait wait, I knew this was too good to be true:


Blizzard says only the Terran "Wings of Liberty" campaign is free and Heart of the Swarm (Zerg campaign) and Legacy of the Void (Protoss Campaign) are both still pay to play.

Can anyone refute that?
You are right. I was looking it up.


Lmao, the news is already 5 years old.

Now keep in mind. Wings of Liberty isn't just an one-third Terran only preview. Wings of Liberty was the entire full product that was first released for SC2. Because few years before the release, Blizz wanted to milk their investment so they said, "we gon make 3 full titles instead of one Starcraft 2". I don't blame them as that's when Live service games and microtransactions were on the rise in the industry.

WoL has 30~ missions and 40 hours of gameplay.

The Wings of Liberty is the true SC2 experience as one would've had when SC2 was first released. You get to also control Zerg and Protoss a lot, you don't just play Terran the whole time. They mix it up well. You'll even play Zeratul's vision where you control a full Protoss base with carriers and motherships and the whole works against the almighty Xel'Naga.

It's a full SC2 product. Go enjoy it my friend.

Few years later they released another full 40 hour Zerg, then took another few years for the Protoss.
 
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Zeze

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UED? Maybe I'm in a good spot in that I have forgotten the finer points of the plot line.
UED was the whole plot of Starcraft 1's expansion Brood War.

UED came from earth to eliminate Zerg, but they get their asses kicked too. Even as a teenager I thought UED story made no sense in SC1, why?

Terrans are 30-50K prisoner ships crashed in a distant planet from earth. Then they had to rebuild everything and became the Terrans today with battlecruisers and siege tanks with no contact with earth. The EARTH on the other hand, didn't have to restart their civilization. Yet when they finally meet the Terrans, they show up with the same old battlecruisers and siege tanks? How is that possible?

I'm taking the 90s videogame lore too seriously.
 
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Zeze

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I'd have to go back and replay SC/BW to catch back up on all the lore but I do remember when I replayed them a few years ago, there were a few questionable changes made to the lore within the campaign that I didn't particularly care for but the campaign was fun enough that I looked past it all.
I recall lots of fans didn't like SC2 story because it was very dumbed down, hollywood-esque, and predictable.

I remember Arcturus Mengsk in SC1 was a cunning snake-like character. In SC2, they turned him into a bumbling 'fat' idiot.
 

GodisanAtheist

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UED was the whole plot of Starcraft 1's expansion Brood War.

UED came from earth to eliminate Zerg, but they get their asses kicked too. Even as a teenager I thought UED story made no sense in SC1, why?

Terrans are 30-50K prisoner ships crashed in a distant planet from earth. Then they had to rebuild everything and became the Terrans today with battlecruisers and siege tanks with no contact with earth. The EARTH on the other hand, didn't have to restart their civilization. Yet when they finally meet the Terrans, they show up with the same old battlecruisers and siege tanks? How is that possible?

I'm taking the 90s videogame lore too seriously.

-The UED just showed up as a small expeditionary force that took over Mengsk/Terran Dominion's shipyards and factories.

Agreed it was always a little weird cause in theory the UED should have had tech that rivaled the Protoss.
 

GodisanAtheist

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You are right. I was looking it up.


Lmao, the news is already 5 years old.

Now keep in mind. Wings of Liberty isn't just an one-third Terran only preview. Wings of Liberty was the entire full product that was first released for SC2. Because few years before the release, Blizz wanted to milk their investment so they said, "we gon make 3 full titles instead of one Starcraft 2". I don't blame them as that's when Live service games and microtransactions were on the rise in the industry.

WoL has 30~ missions and 40 hours of gameplay.

The Wings of Liberty is the true SC2 experience as one would've had when SC2 was first released. You get to also control Zerg and Protoss a lot, you don't just play Terran the whole time. They mix it up well. You'll even play Zeratul's vision where you control a full Protoss base with carriers and motherships and the whole works against the almighty Xel'Naga.

It's a full SC2 product. Go enjoy it my friend.

Few years later they released another full 40 hour Zerg, then took another few years for the Protoss.

-Fortunately or unfortunately I already have the WOL campaign, which I bought and played back when it released.

Really hoping the SC2 Battlechest comes to Steam at some point, wouldn't mind playing through all three campaigns just for completeness' sake.
 
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RPD

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I meant I didn't know what UED was abbreviated for, this is that "ultimate" race that created the Protoss and Zerg and was trying to combine them? Or isn't that the Xel'naga? Like at the end of BW you play that mission where you uncover this stuff, right?
 
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Zeze

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I meant I didn't know what UED was abbreviated for, this is that "ultimate" race that created the Protoss and Zerg and was trying to combine them? Or isn't that the Xel'naga? Like at the end of BW you play that mission where you uncover this stuff, right?

Spoilers for 10 & 20 year old games?
  • UED is just a reskinned terran enemy forces in Starcraft 1. One of them makes a return in a zombie/infested form in SC2 as a support character.
  • Xel'Naga is created Zerg (purity of essence) and Protoss (purity of form) in hopes that they merge together naturally to create the perfect species.
  • Amon (final boss of SC2 HotS) is a bad Xel'Naga wanted to accelerate the fusion artificially. This is that BW secret mission where you see Zerg/Protoss hybrid
  • In SC2, you fight tons of these protoss/zerg hybrid. They're unique units and are very strong.
  • These forced artificial hybrids are called 'false Xel'Naga'.
  • You defeat the game by Kerrigan killing Amon and saving the world together.
  • In SC2, you also meet Samir Duran (In BW secret level) again as Dr. Narud. It's a shape shifting agent of Amon.

(Protoss/Zerg hybrid Destroyer)
 

RPD

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Spoilers for 10 & 20 year old games?
  • UED is just a reskinned terran enemy forces in Starcraft 1. One of them makes a return in a zombie/infested form in SC2 as a support character.
  • Xel'Naga is created Zerg (purity of essence) and Protoss (purity of form) in hopes that they merge together naturally to create the perfect species.
  • Amon (final boss of SC2 HotS) is a bad Xel'Naga wanted to accelerate the fusion artificially. This is that BW secret mission where you see Zerg/Protoss hybrid
  • In SC2, you fight tons of these protoss/zerg hybrid. They're unique units and are very strong.
  • These forced artificial hybrids are called 'false Xel'Naga'.
  • You defeat the game by Kerrigan killing Amon and saving the world together.
  • In SC2, you also meet Samir Duran (In BW secret level) again as Dr. Narud. It's a shape shifting agent of Amon.

(Protoss/Zerg hybrid Destroyer)
Ah, yea I forgot the finer points of the original game and BW so didn't know if that was a label for the Xel'Naga. Yep been fighting those hybrids and they are beef cakes.
 
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RPD

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Ok so beat part one and not sure why I figured the entire game was free, but only part 1 of what looks to be 3 and some other content you need to buy. Wasn't looking to spend money on this and gotta say part 1 I was entirely underwhelmed with the campaign. Maps were short, easy and quick. I think like only one on the Char missions or right before that dealing with a protoss to get the last artifact part did I ever really get to build up any sort of a good size army.
 

Shmee

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Yeah the campaigns for HotS, LotV and Nova Ops you have to pay for, but they go on sale pretty regularly, and aren't that much. I would recommend them, the Starcraft 2 story overall is pretty great. Also, if you want to revisit SC and Broodwar, you can try out the mod for SC2 called Mass Recall, which is a really cool project, basically SC:BW campaigns (including the bonus enslavers camaign) ported to the SC2 engine with some other enhancements.
 
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Stg-Flame

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you can try out the mod for SC2 called Mass Recall, which is a really cool project, basically SC:BW campaigns (including the bonus enslavers camaign) ported to the SC2 engine with some other enhancements.
I did not know about this and now I want to go back and revisit SC2 just for this mod.

I think my only complaint about SC2 (without going back and reading what I wrote in the backlog topic a year or two ago) was the complete lack of the Big Game Hunter's skirmish map. Sure there were 4,000 knockoff maps made by players but damn near every single one of them had one of those stupid "fast build" or "infinite resource" mods to them. I just wanted the normal BGH map to play some skirmishes on after the campaign.
 
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