Server IP's have generally lagged consumer IP's. I don't think it's X5.
Hoping you are right 🫰Server IP's have generally lagged consumer IP's. I don't think it's X5.
30% IPC or 30% performance?Let's get a Cortex X5 hype train going.
I'll throw in the first dibs:
30% IPC gain and 30% performance per watt improvement.
20% isn't revolutionary. If this is X5, it no Custom-core killer.D9400 score 2700 @ GB6 ST showing improvement around 20% better than Cortex X4.
Yep. Oryon Phoenix-L @4.0 GHz it seems.It seems 8 Gen4 is using Oryon core NOT Cortex-X5, so far there is leak about 2850 ST score
Accelerated the adoption of RISC-V. Jensen wastes no time in milking his customers. Think royalties per chip sold. License only if you will make a minimum number of millions of chips. Etc. Etc. Custom core? You better have deep pockets to be able to do that. And pay even more royalties per chip.What difference would it have made today?
I would rather ARM be owned by SoftBank. It’s no longer possible to buy it anyway. Nvidia can try and make own chips and couple it with their own GPU IP insteadWhat if Nvidia had succeeded in buying ARM?
I mean, Nvidia announced they want to go into semi-custom. I think the conclusions are self-evident if they were successful in acquiring ARM: you know, just more lasso'ing of companies into the Nvidia ecosystem. If people don't like Apple, wait until they get a load of Nvidia.Nvidia today just added almost $300 billion to their stock, thanks to the AI Boom.
What if.... What if Nvidia had succeeded in buying ARM? What difference would it have made today?
If Nvidia would have brought ARM, people would have tried to jump ship to RISCV ASAP. And ARM would have become like x86. At least for future IPs. Even MIPS would have had a chance of coming back to life. Ill say that Nvidia was the responsible of the sudden peak of interest in RISC-V, or at least one of them. China trying to become independient from the world is another one.I mean, Nvidia announced they want to go into semi-custom. I think the conclusions are self-evident if they were successful in acquiring ARM: you know, just more lasso'ing of companies into the Nvidia ecosystem. If people don't like Apple, wait until they get a load of Nvidia.
It took many years and a revolutionary product like the iPhone for ARM. What's on the horizon that'll make RISC-V like that?If Nvidia would have brought ARM, people would have tried to jump ship to RISCV ASAP. And ARM would have become like x86.
The Aphone powered by the Tenstorrent Sonic Boom CPU!What's on the horizon that'll make RISC-V like that?
ARM was a thing long before iPhone.It took many years and a revolutionary product like the iPhone for ARM
They would have not switched ISA for fun, thats clear. But Nvidia was not trying to buy ARM for fun either, they were trying to secure an arch for their future processors.It took many years and a revolutionary product like the iPhone for ARM. What's on the horizon that'll make RISC-V like that?
They won't switch to new ISA overnight. They could try, but it'll end up like the Itanium.
It took many years and a revolutionary product like the iPhone for ARM. What's on the horizon that'll make RISC-V like that?
They won't switch to new ISA overnight. They could try, but it'll end up like the Itanium.
Itanium also failed because Intel thought it was a great idea to rely on compiler improvements to extract performance from a brain dead ISA.Itanium failed because overly complex ISA didn't made possible to make competitive hardware. Risc-V doesn't have that problem - pretty much same hardware can run ARM and risc-V.
Itanium also failed because Intel thought it was a great idea to rely on compiler improvements to extract performance from a brain dead ISA.
It's funny thinking that companies can put their weight behind ideas that may look like a disaster waiting to happen from the start. I think the meetings they have, some engineers are bored and want to get out to meet their kids or wife or mistress, others disagree with the idea but don't know if anyone else disagrees so keep quiet rather than face opposition alone in front of bigwigs and the very knowledgeable ones who don't care because the bigwigs promoted the fool talking about the crappy design and passed them over for promotion so they really want to enjoy watching the train wreck in all its glory. And those Chief Architects that scarred the company with their designs? Probably retired now and enjoying the view of their acres of property and living the good life.
Very interesting. So that was Gordon Moore's failed project, no less! What other famous failed projects are there? Any not mentioned here: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/274650-the-worst-cpus-ever-madeIAPX432
Itanium comparison might be extreme, but in the long run, ARM has a huge established software base. RISC-V won't replace ARM until something revolutionary happens like Smartphones in the computing space.