Discussion Dimensity 9300; The end of an era for the Cortex A5xx core?

[FlameTail]

Even that time they used Mediatek, plenty of phones had Dimensity 9000 but didn't sell well.

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This graph show premium phones, as you can see there 93% of those phone don't use Mtk soc in their flagship, Xiaomi and Oppo majority of phones use Snapdragon, you have others with 4% and even that has likes of Sony, Asus, Red magic etc.

Damn. Do you realise the implication of this chart?

Apple is singlehandedly the only customer who has the sheer volume to help TSMC ramp up a new node. (Example: A17 Pro on N3B)

 

[gdansk]

"Customer A" is about, what, 25% of TSMC revenue?
They're the 2 trillion dollar gorilla.

 

[soresu]

Damn. Do you realise the implication of this chart?

Apple is singlehandedly the only customer who has the sheer volume to help TSMC ramp up a new node. (Example: A17 Pro on N3B)

That's one interpretation.

The other is that they simply have the money to buy all that production volume at once before anyone else can get a look in.

 

[Doug S]

"Customer A" is about, what, 25% of TSMC revenue?
They're the 2 trillion dollar gorilla.

Nvidia is into double digits now, and if they keep growing at current rates may become a bigger customer than Apple by the end of next year.

 

[FlameTail]

Dimensity 9300 die shot.

 

[FlameTail]

Dimensity 9300 die shot.

The die size is allegedly 140 mm²

https://twitter.com/x/status/1767873689096523871

For comparison:

A16: 113 mm²
A17: 103 mm²
8 Gen 2: 119 mm²
8 gen 3: 137 mm²
D9200: 121 mm²

 

[Panino Manino]

mod, please remove this post

 

[FlameTail]

mod, please remove this post

Why?

 

[FlameTail]

Dimensity 9400 leak.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1776809351170359644

Multi-core performance is good, but the power consumption is also concerning at a whopping 15W.

 

[SpudLobby]

Dimensity 9400 leak.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1776809351170359644

Multi-core performance is good, but the power consumption is also concerning at a whopping 15W.

I mean. This is all about the curves.

It’s +50% for +15% performance, the 7300 @ 10W looks fine. The *full* roadrace mutli-core load will never actually happen in a smartphone like that without being throttled fairly quickly. What matters is the curve and actual use in games.

I am more concerned about the ST power curve for racing to idle, because they’ve been pushing this at Apple and Arm to where even if it’s still more efficient than last gen the peak power/thermals is getting worse.

 

[FlameTail]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1777238040131551445

Dimensity 9400 rumoured to have 30 billion transistors and die size in excess of 150 mm².

This is insane.