Wait wut? You mean sexual harassment in the workplace is under attack. Unless you believe it is possible for your Boss to ask you for sex and that somehow not affect your career if you decline.
Will say later.
Just directors expressing to actresses that they wished they could sleep with them.
And then apparently this also usually happens.
Personally if I have slept with a woman it becomes a lot easier to work together because the sexual stuff is out of the way ;-).
My point is really that this overall idea of sleeping with those who work for you is under attack, the whole Weinstein story is only 20% about physical harassment and 80% about the idea in general.
Yes you can't prosecute someone for asking for sex.
So this guy is an easy target with his size and conduct.
I want to argue this point, but I'm not I'm not sure it's a good idea in a forum full of conservatives.
I'm not saying anyone is defending him _now_ (who could, at this point? Now the floodgates have opened for the truth to come out)
There are leftists who are on record as saying positive things about the guy in the past, and I could cite lots of general examples of leftists being overly impressed with fame and celebrity.
Sometimes that comes back to bite you, unfortunately. I just think this demonstrates that it's probably a good rule to be cautious around those with wealth and power, whichever team they claim to be on.
Whoopi Goldberg's bizarre defence of Roman Polanski was an earlier example of the problem.
Not at all claiming those on the right are 'better', just that they can get away with it more easily because bowing to wealth and power is far from inconsistent with their general ideology.
It's why I don't know that its particularly a good thing when Hollywood types and other celebs get treated as especially important when they make political pronouncements, even if they are liberals.
O'Reilly, Ayers, Wiener, Cosby, Weinstein, and Trump. We only know about their bad behavior because they're famous. I know of a woman who was raped on vacation, and another who was repeatedly raped by her father. I'll never forget driving with an ex-friend who hooted at a woman who was walking down the street. I asked him why, and he said, "She was asking for it the way she was dressed (in a sun-dress on a warm day)."
Sexual attraction comes from a deep, instinctual part of the brain responsible for the continuation of the specie. It seems uncontrollable in some men who don't have a modicum of sophistication to suppress it in inappropriate situations. Things like alcohol reduce inhibitions even more.
Holy crap did you just make a universal excuse for rape based on instincts?
This is no better than saying that men should have the right to rape women since that is how men are.
Here are some news for you, you rapist wannabee twat, most men don't get off on forcing themselves on women and for those who do it's very rarely about sexual attraction but rather about power and violence being the thing that gets them off.
You really need to seek help, you really, REALLY do because your ideas that it's based on just being like men are is a deep seated excuse for raping women and if you haven't yet you have already made up your excuse to do so. "it's just normal for men to rape women"
I've never had the inclination nor the will to force myself on any woman and neither has ANY normal man, those like you who think this that it's part of being a man to want to do that are sick in the fucking head, so sick that you should be locked up before you act on what you think is perfectly normal.
O'Reilly, Ayers, Wiener, Cosby, Weinstein, and Trump. We only know about their bad behavior because they're famous. I know of a woman who was raped on vacation, and another who was repeatedly raped by her father. I'll never forget driving with an ex-friend who hooted at a woman who was walking down the street. I asked him why, and he said, "She was asking for it the way she was dressed (in a sun-dress on a warm day)."
Sexual attraction comes from a deep, instinctual part of the brain responsible for the continuation of the specie. It seems uncontrollable in some men who don't have a modicum of sophistication to suppress it in inappropriate situations. Things like alcohol reduce inhibitions even more.
I'm afraid you misunderstood. How did I excuse this bad behavior?
"Sexual attraction comes from a deep, instinctual part of the brain responsible for the continuation of the specie."
That is patently false and the excuse those who have these longings famously give, "it's only natural, it's part of our instinct".
It's no such thing and there is zero evidence that it is part of any instinct, in fact there is sufficient evidence to support that anyone who ever behaved like this in the stone age would have been mauled by his tribe.
There is no instinct to rape, this is a psychopathic type of behaviour that has always been shunned in human tribes until the dawn of modern religion when it suddenly became fairly OK.
I didn't say the behavior was instinctual, I said the attraction was. What men do with that is up to their character. Many obviously go way too far.
Uh, guy is a creep no doubt, but as far as I know he's in trouble for sending dick pics. That's a long way from drugging women, raping them or sexually harassing employees over the course of decades.
I quoted you word for fucking word.
Attraction does not define acts, you literally defended the ACTS while not understanding the behaviour that has NOTHING to do with sexual attraction at all.
I tried, but you are contentiously fucking yourself here.
You missed the rapist, Bill Clinton.Yes, the bad behavior is as wide-ranging as the perpetrators and their character flaws. But although there are varying degrees of abuse, it starts with attraction in every case. Many men have no control.
You missed the rapist, Bill Clinton.
Juanita Brodderick. He also paid out over $800,000 + to another victim of his sexual assaults, Paula Jones.I missed many, although I didn't know Clinton was accused of rape.
Juanita Brodderick. He also paid out over $800,000 + to another victim of his sexual assaults, Paula Jones.
He probably doesn't have the right qualifications for them if you know what I mean.Maybe he can get a job at Fox News.
Good grief stupid leftists. Blathering on like you never supported and looked the other way for a serial sex offender in the White House.
And over the actions of Harvey Weinstein and Hollywood? Yeah sure, that really falls on the right.
Fucking idiots.
Hmm... maybe it has something to do with this? http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/harvey-weinstein-democrats/index.html
Good grief stupid leftists. Blathering on like you never supported and looked the other way for a serial sex offender in the White House.
And over the actions of Harvey Weinstein and Hollywood? Yeah sure, that really falls on the right.
Fucking idiots.
Hmm... maybe it has something to do with this? http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/harvey-weinstein-democrats/index.html
People in Hollywood kept their mouths shut about Weinstein because he's a powerful producer with the ability to destroy careers. Same reason employees of Fox News kept their mouths shut about Ailes and O'Reilly. I think you're confusing this reality with some theory you have about liberals being over-awed by celebrities. If anything, the over-awe has more to do with attractive actors and actresses than it does fat ugly producers who operate behind the scenes. I just don't see the connection between what you're talking about and Weinstein. It's simple: victims and others, like employees, kept their mouths shut because of his power. Some may have praised him to kiss his ass. Once it became public what he was doing, basically everyone in the world is condemning him. This has nothing to do with ideology or celeb worship whatsoever.
I've said this many times before on several topics here: people can seem quite passionate about their politics, but when push comes to shove, their careers and livelihoods always come first.
BUMP!
Its not just mere accusations anymore. New York is working to nail Harvey:
https://wtop.com/national/2017/11/nypd-says-it-is-building-rape-case-against-harvey-weinstein/
Shouldn't they all go down (inside the statute of limitations and outside of settlements/hush money)?