Question [WTFTech] 3050 6 GB possibly coming

[jpiniero]

NVIDIA To Introduce New GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB GPUs In 2024: 70W TGP With Cut-Down Specs & Lower Prices

NVIDIA is expected to introduce a brand new variant of the GeForce RTX 3050 in 2024 with the Ampere GPU architecture & 6 GB memory.

wccftech.com

I know, WTFTech. But this does sound like something nVidia would do. Dunno why they can't just call it the 3040.

In any case, it has less cores than the original 3050, and has 96-bit for the 6 GB of memory. Also 70 TGP so bus powered only (?)

Price is likely under $200.

 

[MrTeal]

So it'll have less BW than a GDDR5 1660 non-S or 1060, and probably less shader performance than the 1660.
Slot powered is nice, but hopefully quite a bit less than $200.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Slot powered is nice, but hopefully quite a bit less than $200.

This. They obviously see a weakness in their lineup, with the $130 GT 1030 2GB DDR4 model competing poorly against the ASrock ARC A380 6GB for $119, also LP.

Also the 4GB RX 6400.

Are they willing to take the price of this mystery NV part to $150 or lower?

I wonder if these are unsold dies from the RTX 2060 12GB cards?

 

[ozzy702]

Is the 1650 the best slot powered card available right now? I wonder if this is supposed to replace it. Hopefully this is a $150 card, we could use these at work and I'd probably pop one in my daughter's beater HP to replace the current 1650.

 

[VirtualLarry]

RX 6400 beats the 1650 slightly I hear, esp in newer games. Both are similar, RX 6400 only has 4X PCI-E electrically though. But do they even still make a LP GTX 1650, that's the biggest question.

 

[MrTeal]

It's too bad, I'm sure NV could release a 75W AD107 card if they were so inclined. Even at 80% of the performance of a 4060 it would still be at 3060/5700XT level which is perfectly passable for 1080p and reduced settings and a massive upgrade vs anything else slot powered. Only problem is the existing 4060 is a $300 GPU.

 

[jpiniero]

NVIDIA preparing GeForce RTX 3050 with 6GB VRAM, 8GB model to be phased out - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX 3050 6GB to replace 8GB model Sources close to NVIDIA board channels were notified about the upcoming change to GeForce RTX 3050 series. The 8GB variant of the RTX 3050 appears to be impacting sales of the RTX 4060 too much, prompting NVIDIA to make the decision to discontinue the...

videocardz.com

Fresh rumor says it is coming in January.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

JFC as if the 3050 wasn't bad enough already

 

[MrTeal]

If it's on a 192 bit bus it might not be terrible if priced appropriately. The thing's already weaker than than a 2060 6GB, and if it slots into the $200 price point (given you can buy a 3050 8GB for $220) that seems reasonable. Might even be more performant that a 3050 8GB if you're not VRAM limited.

If it's on the more likely 96-bit bus with 3 2GB chips that's going to be what, 168GB/s bandwidth? Last desktop card that Nvidia released with that little bandwidth was the 1650 (non-Super, the Super had 192GB/s).

 

[SPBHM]

if this was super cheap it would be interesting, 6GB of vram is fine with lower settings and it supports dlss I assume, but, they are probably going to be charging something that makes it look awful against a 6600 or something,

 

[jpiniero]

If it's on the more likely 96-bit bus with 3 2GB chips that's going to be what, 168GB/s bandwidth?

They could give it higher memory speeds... but most likely yeah.

 

[Ranulf]

if this was super cheap it would be interesting, 6GB of vram is fine with lower settings and it supports dlss I assume, but, they are probably going to be charging something that makes it look awful against a 6600 or something,

That would be my guess. $200 probably.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

If there are slot powered ITX and LP models for $150 or less it will have a niche in retail. Prebuilts is where it's future lies otherwise. DLSS on a 1080p med. or low card, is not what I'd call a selling point. RT is a non starter. It would be giving up 2GB of vram and too much performance versus anything Intel and AMD have at $175 or more. It has to be targeted at the A380 6400, and 6500XT.

 

[Saylick]

All I got to say to this is 🤢🤮

 

[SteveGrabowski]

if this was super cheap it would be interesting, 6GB of vram is fine with lower settings and it supports dlss I assume, but, they are probably going to be charging something that makes it look awful against a 6600 or something,

C'mon we're talking Nvidia

 

[Jaskalas]

2024 is dawn of 720p, 30 fps?
Didn't have that on a bingo card....

 

[gdansk]

Slightly better NVDEC/NVENC than TU117
But would prefer AD107

 

[jpiniero]

But would prefer AD107

Maybe in 2026

 

[SteinFG]

It's too bad, I'm sure NV could release a 75W AD107 card if they were so inclined. Even at 80% of the performance of a 4060 it would still be at 3060/5700XT level which is perfectly passable for 1080p and reduced settings and a massive upgrade vs anything else slot powered. Only problem is the existing 4060 is a $300 GPU.

The problem is that only a small number of people will buy it, cause it will cost just 5 dollars less than 115W version (4060), so $295 for ~20% less performance than 4060. The only difference between 75 and 115W version would be the size of the cooler.

 

[SteinFG]

if this was super cheap it would be interesting, 6GB of vram is fine with lower settings and it supports dlss I assume, but, they are probably going to be charging something that makes it look awful against a 6600 or something,

Yup, if nvidia wants to retire 16 series than this 3050 6gb should cost 160 dollars.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

1. It does not have the bandwidth or rebar limitations of the 6400/6500 or A380.
2. It has the RTX feature set.
3. There will undoubtedly be slot powered models in both ITX and LP.

It's the card to revive those PCIe 3.0 no rebar having prebuilts with wimpy PSUs and no dedicated GPU cable, that are now a dime a dozen. In that situation it should spank the competition convincingly. The more I consider it, the more I expect them to overprice it due to that.

 

[MrPickins]

1. It does not have the bandwidth or rebar limitations of the 6400/6500 or A380.
2. It has the RTX feature set.
3. There will undoubtedly be slot powered models in both ITX and LP.

It's the card to revive those PCIe 3.0 no rebar having prebuilts with wimpy PSUs and no dedicated GPU cable, that are now a dime a dozen. In that situation it should spank the competition convincingly. The more I consider it, the more I expect them to overprice it due to that.

This is my take on it. Look how much the 1030 has been selling for, and this card is worlds better.

(I expect the 1030 to stay the same price, but this to be much much higher)

 

[Brainonska511]

If it's on a 192 bit bus it might not be terrible if priced appropriately. The thing's already weaker than than a 2060 6GB, and if it slots into the $200 price point (given you can buy a 3050 8GB for $220) that seems reasonable. Might even be more performant that a 3050 8GB if you're not VRAM limited.

If it's on the more likely 96-bit bus with 3 2GB chips that's going to be what, 168GB/s bandwidth? Last desktop card that Nvidia released with that little bandwidth was the 1650 (non-Super, the Super had 192GB/s).

At $200, you may as well buy an RX6600.

 

[Ranulf]

At $200, you may as well buy an RX6600.

In theory but many will want Nvidia for compatibility with multimedia playback etc.. I've not paid much attention to home theater in years though. Is AMD equal to Nvidia or Intel for streaming/home video?

 

[Brainonska511]

In theory but many will want Nvidia for compatibility with multimedia playback etc.. I've not paid much attention to home theater in years though. Is AMD equal to Nvidia or Intel for streaming/home video?

If you're streaming or doing multimedia playback, an RX 6600 is going to be just fine - likely overkill for just those things. I was doing that stuff with integrated graphics with an Intel Haswell-era Pentium, and now a Skylake i5.