Question [WTFTech] 3050 6 GB possibly coming

[blckgrffn]

I like that this will keep all of the used office boxes with OG ZEN, i7s, and Xeons gaming it up for years to come. No rebar issues. No x4 PCIe nonsense. No crippled media engines. No SATA to PCIe adapters. No worries about that proprietary 200-300W PSU. LP model for those SFF OEM boxes. It's the new king of the niche, and it's a sizeable niche.

Wait wait wait are you calling out the 6500xt/6400 here? Ha.

Indeed.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

They made sense when they released. It's the Dana Carvey old man character from SNL - That's all there was! And we liked it! But now that some modicum of normalcy has returned, they are pointless.

 

[jpiniero]

I think it's mainly shrinkflation for OEMs. They can put the 3050 6 GB when they had the 8 GB version, save a few bucks.

 

[blckgrffn]

I think it's mainly shrinkflation for OEMs. They can put the 3050 6 GB when they had the 8 GB version, save a few bucks.

There’s probably a dash of that and Nvidia someday is going to stop producing non-RTX parts and wind down the distribution of older parts to eventually EOL them. So a bit of lifecycle management as well. I haven’t checked, but has this essentially already existed as a Quadro for a while? That wouldn’t surprise me a bit. If there isn’t a Quadro equivalent yet I’d expect one soon to continue the RTX everywhere push.

Since the late teens, that seems to be where the true “entry level” Nvidia cards seem to have gone. Lots of business PCs with very low level GPUs but supporting multi-monitor and video decode and encode acceleration and a dash of Cuda for your Photoshop. Along with stable drivers and a fancy desktop manager an easy upsell.

 

[MrTeal]

There’s probably a dash of that and Nvidia someday is going to stop producing non-RTX parts and wind down the distribution of older parts to eventually EOL them. So a bit of lifecycle management as well. I haven’t checked, but has this essentially already existed as a Quadro for a while? That wouldn’t surprise me a bit. If there isn’t a Quadro equivalent yet I’d expect one soon to continue the RTX everywhere push.

Since the late teens, that seems to be where the true “entry level” Nvidia cards seem to have gone. Lots of business PCs with very low level GPUs but supporting multi-monitor and video decode and encode acceleration and a dash of Cuda for your Photoshop. Along with stable drivers and a fancy desktop manager an easy upsell.

AFAIK no, there hasn't been a small cheap single slot Quadro in awhile. The smallest ADA are AD104 based and over a grand. There's actually a half height double slot 70W version of that card though with 6144 cores and 20GB VRAM in a 70W TDP, so ADA can be clocked way down.
Ampere bottomed out at A2000 which is a GA106 and still pretty pricey.
I think the last cheap workstation display cards are the Turing TU117 T series, so a 1650-class. That's still the current base Nvidia GPU if you're setting up a Precision workstation.

 

[BFG10K]

First decent review. 3050 8GB is ~25% faster than 6GB but uses ~twice the power, so the new card is quite a bit more efficient.

I've gamed on a slot-powered 1050TI before and it was extremely nice for old games. Dead silent and virtually no heat even at full load. And most older titles had no problem doing 1440p60 even with oldskool 4xMSAA.

I confess to having a bit of personal bias for these kinds of cards. I hate the "brick-surfboard-furnace" direction the industry is heading in.

 

[MrTeal]

First decent review. 3050 8GB is ~25% faster than 6GB but uses ~twice the power, so the new card is quite a bit more efficient.

I've gamed on a slot-powered 1050TI before and it was extremely nice for old games. Dead silent and virtually no heat even at full load. And most older titles had no problem doing 1440p60 even with oldskool 4xMSAA.

I confess to having a bit of personal bias for these kinds of cards. I hate the "brick-surfboard-furnace" direction the industry is heading in.

I hear ya. Think of how awesome RTX 4000 ADA SFF would be is it was 10GB instead of 20GB and ya know, not $1500.

 

[blckgrffn]

I hear

I hear ya. Think of how awesome RTX 4000 ADA SFF would be is it was 10GB instead of 20GB and ya know, not $1500.

Feels like 2030 could be the year for that!

 

[igor_kavinski]

OOS on Newegg already!

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601399335%20600358543

What kind of world do we live in where even scrawny Geforce cards sell like hot cakes???

AMD/Intel, get off your baboon arses and compete, for heaven's sake!

 

[GodisanAtheist]

OOS on Newegg already!

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601399335%20600358543

What kind of world do we live in where even scrawny Geforce cards sell like hot cakes???

AMD/Intel, get off your baboon arses and compete, for heaven's sake!

- RX 6600 is right there at $199 and absolutely lays the smackdown on this thing but will be in stock forever at this point.

AMD could release a 28/24 cu "Rx 7500" and offer it for close to $200 but they've chosen not to compete on the lowend this gen (or just let N23 overstock do the lifting).

 

[Glo.]

This GPU can easily handle game like Valorant in 1440p/240 FPS with even Alder Lake 12100F CPU.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

OOS on Newegg already!

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601399335%20600358543

What kind of world do we live in where even scrawny Geforce cards sell like hot cakes???

AMD/Intel, get off your baboon arses and compete, for heaven's sake!

I don't think they have been in stock yet? I have not seen the add to cart for any of them since release, when I have checked.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I don't think they have been in stock yet? I have not seen the add to cart for any of them since release, when I have checked.

Maybe the scalper bots bought them!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Maybe the scalper bots bought them

Come on man...they are already overpriced, who is going to pay even more to a scalper in 2024?

Also, there are only a few models under 180mm. Someone needs to turn out a mini-ITX single fan model.

 

[igor_kavinski]

https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/gpu/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&search=3050&category=GPU&category_filter=GPU~0,LAPTOP~0,STUDIO-LAPTOP~0,DESKTOP~0,MONITOR~0,MICE~0,GFN~0,NVLINKS~0

Nothing available there.

But then they outright lie here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-3050-6gb-out-now/

Maybe what they mean by "available" is that description of the 6GB models is LIVE on the AIB websites.

Morons.

 

[jpiniero]

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB vs. 6 GB im Test: Gaming-Benchmarks

GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB im Test: Gaming-Benchmarks / Counter-Strike 2 / Cyberpunk 2077 / Diablo IV / Dota 2 / F1 23 / Baldur's Gate 3

www.computerbase.de

More benchmarks from Compubase. It's a decent improvement over the 1650 NS I guess.

 

[BFG10K]

TPU review. Nice small simple card.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB Review - The Fastest Slot-Powered GPU

Priced at $180, the GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB offers an accessible entry point into PC gaming. Operating solely on PCIe slot power, it's compatible with all PCs, including older OEM models, eliminating the need for power connectors. While noise levels are impressive, the price-to-performance ratio...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[SteinFG]

Wish AMD also got something slot-powered that's not Navi 24.
X4 PCIe + 64bit bus + no encoders is a joke.
RX 7600S 8GB on a desktop PCB would be perfect for this. 28 compute units, rdna3, 50W+ power consumption. Just name it RX 7500 XT.

 

[AtenRa]

RX6600 8GB 60% faster at 1080p vs 3050 6GB for almost the same price, damn

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB Review - The Fastest Slot-Powered GPU

Priced at $180, the GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB offers an accessible entry point into PC gaming. Operating solely on PCIe slot power, it's compatible with all PCs, including older OEM models, eliminating the need for power connectors. While noise levels are impressive, the price-to-performance ratio...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[blckgrffn]

RX6600 8GB 60% faster at 1080p vs 3050 6GB for almost the same price, damn

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB Review - The Fastest Slot-Powered GPU

Priced at $180, the GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB offers an accessible entry point into PC gaming. Operating solely on PCIe slot power, it's compatible with all PCs, including older OEM models, eliminating the need for power connectors. While noise levels are impressive, the price-to-performance ratio...

www.techpowerup.com

Yep, scales performance very nicely with the extra power consumption. It's sin is not being an nvidia card.

I've got not issue with those that have to choose nvidia choosing this 3050 6GB. At least it will be a solid low power card for a long time.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Iceberg tests it out. He must have rushed the vid as it isn't up to his usual quality of content. He misses that there are slot powered A380s. Fails to use XeSS with it when available. And I don't think his numbers for ARC are with the last couple of driver releases. He also fails to remember that the A580 is priced similarly to the 3050 6GB. I did not care for his ray tracing tests settings and game selection either. Turning on all RT when at the settings used many of us can't tell some of them are on, is worthless. Spiderman games and reflections only in other games like Cyberpunk are more realistic for this card.

All of the comparisons to cards with power connectors only covers certain buyers. Not certain why that is the focus of the reviews I've seen so far. Throw it in one of the plethora of dirt cheap OEM systems flooding the used market with a old i7 or OG Zen vs any other slot powered card near $200 or less and it'll shine. The almost 15% performance boost from overclocking without any extra wattage is nice too.

 

[jpiniero]

Weird that TPU doesn't include the 1650 NS... which is what the 3050 6 GB replaces effectively.

 

[jpiniero]

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB vs. 6 GB im Test: Gaming-Benchmarks

GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB im Test: Gaming-Benchmarks / Counter-Strike 2 / Cyberpunk 2077 / Diablo IV / Dota 2 / F1 23 / Baldur's Gate 3

www.computerbase.de

Compubase added the 1650 Super and the 1050 Ti to the benchmarks. The 1650S is about the same performance as the 3050 6 GB except for Bear Sex 3 and Ratchet & Clank, where the less vram on the 1650S takes it's toll.

Do note that the 1650S's original MSRP was $159.

 

[MrTeal]

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB vs. 6 GB im Test: Gaming-Benchmarks

GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB im Test: Gaming-Benchmarks / Counter-Strike 2 / Cyberpunk 2077 / Diablo IV / Dota 2 / F1 23 / Baldur's Gate 3

www.computerbase.de

Compubase added the 1650 Super and the 1050 Ti to the benchmarks. The 1650S is about the same performance as the 3050 6 GB except for Bear Sex 3 and Ratchet & Clank, where the less vram on the 1650S takes it's toll.

Do note that the 1650S's original MSRP was $159.

For...

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[SteveGrabowski]

RX6600 8GB 60% faster at 1080p vs 3050 6GB for almost the same price, damn

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB Review - The Fastest Slot-Powered GPU

Priced at $180, the GeForce RTX 3050 6 GB offers an accessible entry point into PC gaming. Operating solely on PCIe slot power, it's compatible with all PCs, including older OEM models, eliminating the need for power connectors. While noise levels are impressive, the price-to-performance ratio...

www.techpowerup.com

I don't understand buying any Nvidia card below the 4070 Ti Super. That one I can understand if you really like RT since at least it has a reasonable amount of VRAM to grow with at 1440p. Anything below that card though, gross.