Oh that's totally normal. Stuff may randomly go bonkers on the 8th, 17th and the 26th all over the world. It's also 17th here when my NIC had the issue. If it were up to me, I would declare these as public holidays so we can all stay home and deal with the wonderful random issues without also having to deal with work or school.
I know, right! It's the "three birthdays" of Dr. Fauchi!Stuff may randomly go bonkers on the 8th, 17th and the 26th all over the world.
Irrelevant. It can be done from software inside windows, therefore it can be done by software inside windows.Yes but we are talking about Windows. Does Microsoft have the permission to fudge with their users' UEFI settings?
Come on, if software can, obviously the OS can as well.Yes but we are talking about Windows. Does Microsoft have the permission to fudge with their users' UEFI settings?
Software is installed by the user and probably run with admin privileges to do that. But if the OS does it, it's gotta ask permission or get the user's consent. Otherwise, Microsoft will land itself in hot water.Come on, if software can, obviously the OS can as well.
Are you referring to the hot water Microsoft always gets into without repercussions every single upgrade by turning on (again and again) all levers for telemetry even though that's unlawful within Europe? You think they'll ask nicely and clearly when doing changes to the UEFI settings?Software is installed by the user and probably run with admin privileges to do that. But if the OS does it, it's gotta ask permission or get the user's consent. Otherwise, Microsoft will land itself in hot water.
Collecting PC usage data is not as intrusive as messing with UEFI settings. Unless someone provides definite proof that Windows is indeed fiddling with UEFI settings or causing them to reset to default state, I'm not going to be convinced. My google search reveals that Windows CAN change the UEFI boot order. That's about it.Are you referring to the hot water Microsoft always gets into without repercussions every single upgrade by turning on (again and again) all levers for telemetry even though that's unlawful within Europe? You think they'll ask nicely and clearly when doing changes to the UEFI settings?
I beg your pardon? One at least stays on the system, the other doesn't. Which one do you consider more intrusive again?Collecting PC usage data is not as intrusive as messing with UEFI settings.
It's anonymous usage data and Windows asks on the very first setup what users want to share.I beg your pardon? One at least stays on the system, the other doesn't. Which one do you consider more intrusive again?
Yeah, as anonymous as mobile phone tracking data and the likes. So not anonymous at all as a whole, pseudonymous at best.It's anonymous usage data and Windows asks on the very first setup what users want to share.
Any company will do what they can get away with easily. "Stealing" user usage data silently or PC refusing to boot and needing UEFI settings to be reset to default values (which a lot of users may not even know what that means or does, like pre-builts)? It's easy to see which would make the news more and Microsoft wouldn't dare do that (at least intentionally).But calling access to UEFI worse than this outrageous (and as wrote within the EU unlawful) behaviour is confused.
Oh right! I forgot corporations always follow the law and do what's right in the best interest of their customers.Any company will do what they can get away with easily. "Stealing" user usage data silently or PC refusing to boot and needing UEFI settings to be reset to default values (which a lot of users may not even know what that means or does, like pre-builts)? It's easy to see which would make the news more and Microsoft wouldn't dare do that (at least intentionally).
I'm not defending Microsoft. Just saying that they wouldn't want the bad publicity of unbootable PCs by intentionally messing with UEFI settings, which in itself hasn't been shown to be true. My incomplete knowledge on the matter tells me that they can only make changes to the EFI system partition.Oh right! I forgot corporations always follow the law and do what's right in the best interest of their customers.
Well then what happened to my daughter's PC? She had been gaming for a few hours, everything was fine. Goes to shut down and tells Windows to update and it no longer boots. I know Windows did something because when I loaded the settings back in and rebooted it Windows was finishing updates. And of course it's been fine the last 2 days after reloading the settings.I'm not defending Microsoft. Just saying that they wouldn't want the bad publicity of unbootable PCs by intentionally messing with UEFI settings, which in itself hasn't been shown to be true. My incomplete knowledge on the matter tells me that they can only make changes to the EFI system partition.
Well, the best way to test that would be to roll back those updates, apply them again and see if it borks UEFI again. I don't think you would want to do that, thoughI know Windows did something
I Finally picked up the 7800X3D bundle from Micro Center! I tried to ask the associate about open box components, but he didn't seem interested at all. At $470+tax, I'm okay with it. Rest of components came from Amazon and Newegg, so I'm all set. I bought an extra Samsung 980 PRO 2TB... maybe it'll go back to Amazon but damn it was so cheap ($70, open box) so I don't know what to do. 🤔They dropped the price on the 7800x3D to $300. I picked one up today with a $110 open box ASUS B650-PLUS TUF GAMING WIFI and a $40 open box G.Skill Ripjaws S5 6400c32 32GB kit. I already have 2 Flare X5 6000c30 32GB EXPO kits so the Ripjaws S5 kit I picked up today will go in my 13700k system. One of the Flare X5 kits is in my Intel system currently with a 6800c32 overclock. I also picked up a MAINGEAR IGNITION 1200 Watt 80 Plus Platinum they had on sale for $99.
I got home and realized someone had stuck one of the MSI B650 Pro boards inside of the Asus box. I drove right back to the store rather pissed off. They made it right with no questions asked though. They didn't have any B650 Tuf boards in stock so they let me exchange for a new ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI. It all worked out in my favor but I still wasted 2 hours of my time and had to drive an extra 70 miles round trip.
I've purchased 30+ open box motherboards from Micro Center over the past 5 years without a single issue so I don't want to discourage anyone from grabbing a good deal on open box board. They are often incredible bargains. Just remember to inspect the board and box contents before you leave so you don't make the same mistake I did today. I actually did a quick check for accessories at the pickup counter but didn't take the board out of the anti static bag to inspect like I usually do. Whoops!
My store had tons of the MSI boards (over the weekend) along with lots of open box boards from the various bundles. I picked up a 7900X bundle and a 7800X3D bundle on Saturday. FYI to anyone looking to pull the trigger on any of the MC bundles......if you put the bundle items individually in your cart when you do your reservation the pricing on individual items will adjust to the bundle price. From there you can return any of the individual parts you don't want/need although the RAM and mobo prices are solid as well.I Finally picked up the 7800X3D bundle from Micro Center! I tried to ask the associate about open box components, but he didn't seem interested at all. At $470+tax, I'm okay with it. Rest of components came from Amazon and Newegg, so I'm all set. I bought an extra Samsung 980 PRO 2TB... maybe it'll go back to Amazon but damn it was so cheap ($70, open box) so I don't know what to do. 🤔
It seemed like they've had a hard time keeping the MSI PRO B650-P in stock at MC locations, but they had some on the shelf today. I had already reserved one of 3 yesterday so I was safe. Would have preferred to cajole them into offering me a slightly better board though. 😄
My last desktop PC was an Athlon XP (Barton) with GeForce 6800LE... haven't even tried booting it in about a decade. I suspect it still works, and I should repurpose it as a legacy Windows 98 gaming system.
They trying move out stock asap to get ready for Zen 5.Just got a sealed new 7800X3D for $199.99
Isn't Zen 5 several months to a year away?They trying move out stock asap to get ready for Zen 5.
rumor... April 2024Isn't Zen 5 several months to a year away?
Isn't Zen 5 several months to a year away?