Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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DaaQ

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TPM requirement for Win11 was also just a sticker?

So your claim was all BS, since you couldn't even link to any previous post clarifying your claim that you said existed. Got it.

Third reminder regarding this without answer ^^^. Your statement is debunked.
Running legit W11 pro on Asus CHVF-Z no issues. Actually just put a XTX in it also.
 

Mahboi

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poke01

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Strix Halo isn’t even getting announced till CES 2025. Oh and it won’t ship till in mass till Q2.

“This year, my ass.” Qualcomm biggest miss would be if they mess up pricing.

That guy used be so annoying during the M1 days. He used say wait for Meteor Lake it will beat M1. We all know what failure MTL was.

Sorry, but I hate these fan accounts. It’s annoying.
 
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adroc_thurston

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kekframeX

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  1. Microsoft's 'AI PC' requirements revolve around mobile products certification. The same AI assisted tools & features can be driven by processors of types other than a 'neural engine' on non-mobile platforms, CPU and GPU included.
  2. fTPM is no longer required beginning from the current generation processors, as Microsoft has accepted Pluton specification security processors as alternatives to TPM 2.0 hardware modules. These are found in all current and next generation architecture products. Sharp-eyed users might be aware that recent AM5 motherboard firmware updates support this.
 
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Ajay

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That would be crazy if it's using a custom CCD AND an custom IO die. Can't imagine the volume will be high enough to justify that.
Why not, that's basically what apple did with their M series. Best value add is on their notebooks, which sell in decent, but not huge numbers.
 

adroc_thurston

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Can't imagine the volume will be high enough to justify that.
Nothing about -halo volume justifies it.
Gotta try.
Only way that makes sense to me is if it uses some new kind of packaging that's not compatible with any existing dies.
It's not really new.
You can go and buy it right now.
 

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IS Zen 5 confirmed to still max out at 8 cores per CCD or is there a chance of more?

I wonder how good it will be and will X3D versions will be released. ate December 2024 or early to Spring 2025.

Will be interesting to see in gaming how vanilla Zen 5 does compared to Zen 4 7800X3D in gaming. Will it be better or the same? And how much better in gaming todays and future games will X3D Zen 5 be than Zen 4 X3D?

And I wonder if even if only stuck at 8 cores per CCD will there be enough IPC and overall performance uplift per core that 8 core X3D variant Zen 5 9800X3D will easily be able to handle future RTX 5090 at 4K in todays and future CPU intensive games with no CPU bottleneck.

Cause I really do not want 9950X3D and dual CCD design with the cross latency penalty. If games are really going to start using more than 8 cores, we need them on a single CCD or ring bus.
 
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adroc_thurston

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IS Zen 5 confirmed to still max out at 8 cores per CCD or is there a chance of more?
yea
I wonder how good it will be and will X3D versions will be released
Very and a year after the mainline stuff.
Will be interesting to see in gaming how vanilla Zen 5 does compared to Zen 4 7800X3D.
It bends it in half.
And how much better will X3D Zen 5 be than Zen 4 X3D?
It bends it in half.
Cause I really do not want 9950X3D and dual CCD design with the cross latency penalty. If games are really going to start using more than 8 cores, we need them on a single CCD or ring bus.
No one really cares what you want.
You get what you get.
 

Wolverine2349

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No one really cares what you want.
You get what you get.

Which in that case the 8 cores on single CCD of Zen 5 with supposedly superior IPC an other performance uplift (clock speeds IMC for better DDR5 speeds) better be ore than enough for future CPU intensive games and soon to be released ones with RTX 5090 and beyond and the per core performance and IPC uplift is more than enough cause I will stick with single CCD 8 core design.
 

adroc_thurston

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Should have clarified and already edited my post meant in gaming not other things.
Well yeah, gaming and JITs are two things Zen5 excels at.
Which in that case the 8 cores on single CCD of Zen 5 with supposedly superior IPC an other performance uplift (clock speeds IMC for better DDR5 speeds) better be ore than enough for future CPU intensive games and soon to be released ones with RTX 5090 and beyond and the per core performance and IPC uplift is more than enough cause I will stick with single CCD 8 core design.
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