That is OEM PC, you know the vast majority of the PC market.. It most certainly is a real market. And there are desktops from Dell and Alienware that have the high end hardware available to buy without DIY that has RTX 4090s and 7800X3Ds so yes its very much a real market for high end GPUs and CPUs and 4K gaming and that is not DIY either!!
The Go and Chess gamers will rush to buy 2P Turin on day one regardless, won't they? ;-)In any case Zen 5 will not save gaming.
Can't wait to play TCEC with my bros.The Go and Chess gamers will rush to buy 2P Turin on day one regardless, won't they? ;-)
STX-Halo's GPU should be around N22 perf at half the power btw.
That is OEM PC, you know the vast majority of the PC market.
High end ones like you describe are only a fraction of them, most are Lenovo office machines and their clones.
Umm, Strix Halo will be about RX 6700 XT performance, not RX 6400And STX Halo hearing RX 6400 performance.
Umm, Strix Halo will be about RX 6700 XT performance, not RX 6400
reddit moment. Should've guessed.Maybe so though some reddit say RX 6400. RX 6700XT performance pretty good for an iGPU but even the 3070 which is 2080 level performance beats it, iGPUS just cannot compete with dedicated GPUs in desktops if you want top tier performance.
Its excellent for mobile though if it can get 6700 XT perf.
Go back there.Maybe so though some reddit say RX 6400.
He doesn't know what WGP is or that Radeon exists.Explain how on Earth a 20WGP part is supposed to perform at the level of a 6WGP part when it's bigger in every single way?
OFC they have a choice. They can buy Intel, console, play on a phone or find another hobby.As if DIY kids would have a choice in the matter.
I care about cool products and to a lesser extent money.
Nope.They can buy Intel
PCMR kids are about to issue a fatwa on you for saying that.console
More fatwas?play on a phone or find another hobby.
What I consider cool is generally cool from technology POV.What is cool product to you, is not cool for everyone
Yea and?I could not care less about Halo Strix for example.
OFC they have a choice. They can buy Intel, console, play on a phone or find another hobby.
What is cool product to you, is not cool for everyone. I could not care less about Halo Strix for example.
Well yeah.I just put on ignore and reported those posts. Its fine if they want to talk about how cool Stix Halo is, but they need to stop doing so by trashing and steering us DIY market PC builders towards it as if nothing else matters
Hang on, isn't Strix also Zen 5?Bingo. I really do not care about STrix Halo and care about Zen 5. Its annoying when others try and hijack the thread when people ask about Zen 5 CPU aspect and get hijacked by others telling us how worthless dedicated GPUs are when that is what we enthusiasts use and want and wnat to know what CPU to pair with an RTX 5090 and such.
I just put on ignore and reported those posts. Its fine if they want to talk about how cool Stix Halo is, but they need to stop doing so by trashing and steering us DIY market PC builders towards it as if nothing else matters and regular Zen 5 regular being more powerful CPU only functions with dedicated GPU and people like us questions being useless and attacking AAA games and the desire we have to max them out and we should just abandon DIY and d GPUs which will never happen.
Why? Have Intel products been erased from existence?Nope.
Not everyone building DYI PC is PCMR. Most people are on budget, you know. I would presume AMD would prefer to sell more Zen 5 CPUs, than PS5s, if given the option.PCMR kids are about to issue a fatwa on you for saying that.
Also, that's still AMD. Wild.
Its just CPU + GPU. We had APUs for more than decade. Its gonna be latest and most powerful, but from technology POV, there is nothing special about it. In your head, only.What I consider cool is generally cool from technology POV.
Yea and?
It's a cool product, many firsts for AMD there.
It is, just put that poster on ignore and you are all set.Hang on, isn't Strix also Zen 5?
no-no-no, the only true Zen 5 is the one inside of a 50L+ 700W+ box.Hang on, isn't Strix also Zen 5?
reddit moment. Should've guessed.
Explain how on Earth a 20WGP part is supposed to perform at the level of a 6WGP part when it's bigger in every single way? It even has more than twice the membw, which is THE bottleneck for iGPUs?
Kind of?Have Intel products been erased from existence?
They're chip outta luck then!Most people are on budget, you know
AMD loves margins.I would presume AMD would prefer to sell more Zen 5 CPUs, than PS5s, if given the option.
oh you really have no clue about it huhbut from technology POV, there is nothing special about it. In your head, only.
Hang on, isn't Strix also Zen 5?
no-no-no, the only true Zen 5 is the one inside of a 50L+ 700W+ box.
/s obviously.
Kinda a lot, all Turins are >300W.So what portion of Zen 5 revenue will come from >=300W parts?
And you were told that you'd get a good uplift in gaming performance with Zen 5 on DT. But you're not going to get a bespoke CCD that can't be reused on either server or mobile. Because DIY PC is a niche market.Yes it is The point I am making is those people can and should talk about how cool Stix Halo is without attacking and forcefully steering is away from the DIY market and dedicated GPUs and vanilla and X3D Zen 5 CPUs and AAA games in 4K which people like me and others are curious about.
Talk about Stix Hako all they want but do not force others to abandons DIY and vanilla and X3D chips and dedicated GPUs by their drivel towards me which is why I put them on ignore.