Israel: We Are At War

[Shervan360]

Yeah, because the middle East was so peaceful at all other times. Lol.

Biden has to use his hands to climb the stairs of the plane. Just like a cat.
Yes, this is the president of the United States (superpower).

 

[Moonbeam]

Because the Republican Party interferes less in the Middle East.
The policies of the Democratic Party in the Middle East have been devastating for us.

Yes, well, but why not just overthrow all the dictator governments in the Middle East and bring democracy to the people living there. Why criticize the US. I hate that my taxes are going to killing Palestinian children and millions of other Americans do to, so show us by example how to change our government. Let's have a race to see who can first bring springtime to the world.

 

[brycejones]

If you’re legitimately concerned about Palestinians you really don’t want a Trump presidency.

 

[brycejones]

Because the Republican Party interferes less in the Middle East.
The policies of the Democratic Party in the Middle East have been devastating for us.

You really need to show your work on this one.

Can you name specific policies from Democrats that are worse than the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq plus Trump’s extreme pro Israel policies in regards to stability and peace in the Middle East?

 

[Shervan360]

This is the result of the European and US foreign policy + the support of the USA and European people for Israel

 

[Shervan360]

You really need to show your work on this one.

Can you name specific policies from Democrats that are worse than the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq plus Trump’s extreme pro Israel policies in regards to stability and peace in the Middle East?

ISIS was created by the Obama administration.
Look now, the war and tension in the Middle East are extremely high.
34.000 deaths + 80.000 wounded in Gaza in the Biden administration.

 

[MrSquished]

Because the Republican Party interferes less in the Middle East.
The policies of the Democratic Party in the Middle East have been devastating for us.

😂

I love you proving that you are as useless as a trumpy to our world. Yeah that darn Iraq war that got the Republicans huge erections they made up the entire reason to go in there.

 

[Shervan360]

Yes, well, but why not just overthrow all the dictator governments in the Middle East and bring democracy to the people living there. Why criticize the US. I hate that my taxes are going to killing Palestinian children and millions of other Americans do to, so show us by example how to change our government. Let's have a race to see who can first bring springtime to the world.

The people of the Middle East cannot overthrow their regimes.
Because half of the governments are supported by the West(USA and Europe) and half by China and Russia.

 

[Shervan360]

😂

I love you proving that you are as useless as a trumpy to our world. Yeah that darn Iraq war that got the Republicans huge erections they made up the entire reason to go in there.

The war in Afghanistan and Iraq was good. (Although it would be better if they were overthrown by methods without war.) The Iraqi Ba'ath regime and the Taliban had to be destroyed.
The Taliban and Saddam Hussein's regime are harmful to the world.

 

[brycejones]

ISIS was created by the Obama administration.
Look now, the war and tension in the Middle East are extremely high.
34.000 deaths + 80.000 wounded in Gaza in the Biden administration.

So a drop in the bucket for the death toll from the Iraq invasion, the invasion of Iran by Iraq which happened during Reagan. If the metric is dead and wounded then it’s clear the worst events in the Middle East have started during Republican leadership.

 

[Shervan360]

So a drop in the bucket for the death toll from the Iraq invasion, the invasion of Iran by Iraq which happened during Reagan. If the metric is dead and wounded then it’s clear the worst events in the Middle East have started during Republican leadership.

But under Trump, we had no war in the Middle East.
Russia did not dare to attack Ukraine.

 

[MrSquished]

The war in Afghanistan and Iraq was good. (Although it would be better if they were overthrown by methods without war.)
The Taliban and Saddam Hussein's regime are harmful to the world.

The war in Iraq under Bush directly led to the emergence of terrorist groups including isis.

 

[brycejones]

But under Trump, we had no war in the Middle East.
Russia did not dare to attack Ukraine.

Sorry that wasn’t your argument. You need to slow the goal posts down.

Are you also arguing that Gazans have a better future under a Trump administration that enabled and turned a blind eye to Israel’s land grabs and isolation of Palestinians?

 

[Moonbeam]

The people of the Middle East cannot overthrow their regimes.
Because half of the governments are supported by the West(USA and Europe) and half by China and Russia.

Ours is supported by big money and lobbying. So, are you not complaining about the US involvement in the Middle East only because of all the places on Earth that could change its ways via public pressure is the US? Our torch has been sullied, no doubt, but where else do you see any hope for light?

I have hope that Americans are going to grow tired of dealing with the fact their taxes are killing babies in Palestine. I believe that people who think that will grow and grow and that will lead to change. Meanwhile, I'm not going to hate on the people of the Middle East who can't do anything at home for fear of being shot.

We face our own ridicule and contempt here for bucking the Israeli propaganda machine. Everybody is jumping up and down with anger frustration and rage, but let's be real. Why hold Americans in contempt for not doing what you also can't.

 

[brycejones]

I really wish our latest foreign assets could decide if US intervention is good or bad.

 

[Shervan360]

Democrats are one of the main factors behind the 1979 revolution in Iran.
Carter and Kennedy.
Shame on the Democratic Party.

 

[Shervan360]

Sorry that wasn’t your argument. You need to slow the goal posts down.

Are you also arguing that Gazans have a better future under a Trump administration that enabled and turned a blind eye to Israel’s land grabs and isolation of Palestinians?

Regarding Gaza, there is no difference between the democrats and the republicans.

 

[brycejones]

Regarding Gaza, there is no difference between the democrats and the republicans.

FAFO

 

[brycejones]

Democrats are one of the main factors behind the 1979 revolution in Iran.
Carter and Kennedy.
Shame on the Democratic Party.


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Iranians have to accept responsibility for the collapse of their revolution into a theocracy. Carter gets credit for not propping up a brutal dictatorship and giving Iranians a chance to determine their own fate.

They chose very poorly.

 

[Shervan360]

Iranians have to accept responsibility for the collapse of their revolution into a theocracy. Carter gets credit for not propping up a brutal dictatorship and giving Iranians a chance to determine their own fate.

They chose very poorly.

 

[MrSquished]

It's official. Another piece of shit keeps chiming in, ignores any facts counter to their narrative, and continues on saying the same shit.

Another useless willfully ignorant evil soul, same as your average Trumphumper. Just a different nationality.

 

[brycejones]

You need to supply commentary here.

But thank you for making my point. LOL

 

[Pohemi]

All I see coming from our newest returned comrade is deflection, post-moving, and refusal to actually answer or discuss. Typical.

The sidetrack didn't end; the Gaza thread has become discussion of general ME foreign policy by western nations.

 

[Moonbeam]

You need to supply commentary here.

@Shervan360 The need refers to forum rules not to him needing your comment.

 

[Shervan360]

How can the American/European people sleep when their taxes are sent as bombs to kill the people of Gaza?