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Homerboy

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Grab a cheap pair of Asenath's Gentle Touch Silk Gloves. They'll massively help your clear.



Do you run any of the flask enchants? There are quite a few and cover most things you'd want to do.

I forgot about the instilling orb enchants. Can probably work some combo up.
 

Homerboy

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I'm not going to pretend I understand the mechanics of Plague Bearer, but damn it does some damage.
 

JTsyo

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I'm not going to pretend I understand the mechanics of Plague Bearer, but damn it does some damage.
From reading the skill description it seems it banks some of the damage you deal and then you can activate it to release the damage to those around you. I use it on the small guys since I don't need full damage to kill them and release it on rares.
 

Homerboy

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FINALLY this build is paying off.
I've spent too much time playing over the holidays and I've had some decent drops allowing me to buy some gear. Finally clearing T15+ without many issues. Still have to get into guardians etc.

have to get 3 gold oils to re-anoint my amulet with Whispers of Doom so I can apply 2 curses (have Despair ring ready to go)
belt has to be re-done as well.
Need to figure out single target

@rstrohkirch if you have any ideas for my character, it's always appreacited.
 

rstrohkirch

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FINALLY this build is paying off.
I've spent too much time playing over the holidays and I've had some decent drops allowing me to buy some gear. Finally clearing T15+ without many issues. Still have to get into guardians etc.

have to get 3 gold oils to re-anoint my amulet with Whispers of Doom so I can apply 2 curses (have Despair ring ready to go)
belt has to be re-done as well.
Need to figure out single target

@rstrohkirch if you have any ideas for my character, it's always appreacited.

You want to move into a Devouring Diadem with the ailment unveil and put your auras in it along with a lvl 20 precision since your accuracy isn't there yet. You want to swap your junkier ring with a double buff Circle of Nostalgia. You should swap your gloves with Asenath's Gentle Touch for big clear gains. You should be running a Greater Volley instead of regular because it gives more flask overlap when they hit. These changes are over double damage for you and much better clear.

Devouring: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/qZpzDp9Hg
Asenath's: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/mzGeS6
Nostalgia: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/PPbvvmGiL

Your damage right now is only about 1/8 of what you'll achieve with 10-15 more divine investment. If that helps give an estimate to you on where you could be.
 

Homerboy

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You want to move into a Devouring Diadem with the ailment unveil and put your auras in it along with a lvl 20 precision since your accuracy isn't there yet. You want to swap your junkier ring with a double buff Circle of Nostalgia. You should swap your gloves with Asenath's Gentle Touch for big clear gains. You should be running a Greater Volley instead of regular because it gives more flask overlap when they hit. These changes are over double damage for you and much better clear.

Devouring: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/qZpzDp9Hg
Asenath's: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/mzGeS6
Nostalgia: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/PPbvvmGiL

Your damage right now is only about 1/8 of what you'll achieve with 10-15 more divine investment. If that helps give an estimate to you on where you could be.

Excellent. Will look into it. Sitting on about 3D right now
with those items, I might have issue keeping resists maxed. Will be tricky
 

Homerboy

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You want to move into a Devouring Diadem with the ailment unveil and put your auras in it along with a lvl 20 precision since your accuracy isn't there yet. You want to swap your junkier ring with a double buff Circle of Nostalgia. You should swap your gloves with Asenath's Gentle Touch for big clear gains. You should be running a Greater Volley instead of regular because it gives more flask overlap when they hit. These changes are over double damage for you and much better clear.

Devouring: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/qZpzDp9Hg
Asenath's: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/mzGeS6
Nostalgia: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/PPbvvmGiL

Your damage right now is only about 1/8 of what you'll achieve with 10-15 more divine investment. If that helps give an estimate to you on where you could be.

Ok @rstrohkirch did some heavy investment after some lucky drops
Let me know what you think now.

cant decide between running determination or malevolence though. Not enough mana res to run them all obviously.
 

rstrohkirch

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Ok @rstrohkirch did some heavy investment after some lucky drops
Let me know what you think now.

cant decide between running determination or malevolence though. Not enough mana res to run them all obviously.

I assume it feels a bit better now? I'd make 2 suggestions for changes and then just say run it for a bit to see how you feel.

Changes:

- Swap Cruelty to Viscous Projectiles. Cruelty buff is based off hit damage so the PoB looks good with it but in actual game play it's not nearly as good.
- Dump Snipers Mark/Mark on Hit and its skill cluster. Again it's based off hit damage but it doesn't benefit any of the overlapping flask AoE so it's fake numbers. Put in a 4 jewel cluster with Circling Oblivion / Wicked Pall.
 

Homerboy

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I assume it feels a bit better now? I'd make 2 suggestions for changes and then just say run it for a bit to see how you feel.

Changes:

- Swap Cruelty to Viscous Projectiles. Cruelty buff is based off hit damage so the PoB looks good with it but in actual game play it's not nearly as good.
- Dump Snipers Mark/Mark on Hit and its skill cluster. Again it's based off hit damage but it doesn't benefit any of the overlapping flask AoE so it's fake numbers. Put in a 4 jewel cluster with Circling Oblivion / Wicked Pall.

Yeah much better. Still some "WTH?" deaths, but that's just POE.
I keep getting some good drops so sitting on like 4D to spend right now (with a lot more I could sell for 100s C more)
I will try these changes and report back.

Edit: Oh I lose my frenzy charges then.
 
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Homerboy

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I assume it feels a bit better now? I'd make 2 suggestions for changes and then just say run it for a bit to see how you feel.

Changes:

- Swap Cruelty to Viscous Projectiles. Cruelty buff is based off hit damage so the PoB looks good with it but in actual game play it's not nearly as good.
- Dump Snipers Mark/Mark on Hit and its skill cluster. Again it's based off hit damage but it doesn't benefit any of the overlapping flask AoE so it's fake numbers. Put in a 4 jewel cluster with Circling Oblivion / Wicked Pall.

That opens 2 gem slots for me too (removing mark on hit and sniper's mark)
And I can lose my Whispers of Doom anointment as well (single curse now)
Still sitting on 3D+ to spend as well
 
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rstrohkirch

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Still sitting on 3D+ to spend as well

Once you get to 6D+ then you can do your big upgrade which is moving into a Covenant or a double corrupted Dendrobate. They're worth about 25% more damage and with the ES they provide it'll allow you to move your Malevolence to a Divine Blessing link. That way you can cast it when you need it and you'll get 12-15 seconds of up time on it.
 

Homerboy

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Once you get to 6D+ then you can do your big upgrade which is moving into a Covenant or a double corrupted Dendrobate. They're worth about 25% more damage and with the ES they provide it'll allow you to move your Malevolence to a Divine Blessing link. That way you can cast it when you need it and you'll get 12-15 seconds of up time on it.

Cool
If I sell off some items I can get to 6D easy. If I have some free time I will sell off tonight
couldn't I move Malevolence into Divine blessing right now? I have 2 open sockets since I'm not using Snipers Mark/on hit

Which anoint should I roll to since I don't need double curse?

Gotta say getting Divines to show up in rituals is pretty damned easy.
 

rstrohkirch

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Cool
If I sell off some items I can get to 6D easy. If I have some free time I will sell off tonight

You have 2 choices on armours:

Convenant - Generic choice. ES only so it may take you awhile/extra currency to get 5 off color sockets.
Corrupted Dendrobate - I would suggest this personally. It's ES/EV so it's easy to color corrupt and keep up your evade chance, it has all resist to help with gear and with the corruption/hitting the 300 dex requirement on the item is only 6% less damage than a Convenant. Not only that but you can find double corrupted versions for about the same price as a Convenant and now it's 4-8% better.

Convenant - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/2pwo5jik
Dendrobate single corrupt - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/K5M330gT5
Dendrobate double corrupt - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/9rkw9n0fK

couldn't I move Malevolence into Divine blessing right now? I have 2 open sockets since I'm not using Snipers Mark/on hit

Divine Blessing increases cost quite a bit. You need just over 560 mana to cast a lvl 1 version of it and it goes up to over 760 with a lvl 20. Your current mana/es total after moving Precision to your helm is only 477. You need one of the new armours listed above to get you enough mana. Level 20 Divine Blessing gives you just over 17 seconds of uptime though so it's quite a bit.

Which anoint should I roll to since I don't need double curse?

Top choice is Corruption that increases the effect of wither so it's conditional on wither stacks. Second choice is Acrimony which gives about half the DPS gain as Corruption but it's non-conditional and working all the time. I would test clear with and without double curse to see how you feel because temp chains is very good now considering it has full effect on bosses with the changes. It's a very strong defensive aura on top of the fact that it increases poison duration on enemies by 40%.

Also, a lvl 21/20 PC gem is cheap so you should buy one.
 
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Homerboy

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You have 2 choices on armours:

Convenant - Generic choice. ES only so it may take you awhile/extra currency to get 5 off color sockets.
Corrupted Dendrobate - I would suggest this personally. It's ES/EV so it's easy to color corrupt and keep up your evade chance, it has all resist to help with gear and with the corruption/hitting the 300 dex requirement on the item is only 6% less damage than a Convenant. Not only that but you can find double corrupted versions for about the same price as a Convenant and now it's 4-8% better.

Convenant - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/2pwo5jik
Dendrobate single corrupt - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/K5M330gT5
Dendrobate double corrupt - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/9rkw9n0fK



Divine Blessing increases cost quite a bit. You need just over 560 mana to cast a lvl 1 version of it and it goes up to over 760 with a lvl 20. Your current mana/es total after moving Precision to your helm is only 477. You need one of the new armours listed above to get you enough mana. Level 20 Divine Blessing gives you just over 17 seconds of uptime though so it's quite a bit.



Top choice is Corruption that increases the effect of wither so it's conditional on wither stacks. Second choice is Acrimony which gives about half the DPS gain as Corruption but it's non-conditional and working all the time. I would test clear with and without double curse to see how you feel because temp chains is very good now considering it has full effect on bosses with the changes. It's a very strong defensive aura on top of the fact that it increases poison duration on enemies by 40%.

Also, a lvl 21/20 PC gem is cheap so you should buy one.

Awesome. I love this end game tweaking.
I still can't kill bosses, but it's fun trying!
 

Homerboy

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You have 2 choices on armours:

Convenant - Generic choice. ES only so it may take you awhile/extra currency to get 5 off color sockets.
Corrupted Dendrobate - I would suggest this personally. It's ES/EV so it's easy to color corrupt and keep up your evade chance, it has all resist to help with gear and with the corruption/hitting the 300 dex requirement on the item is only 6% less damage than a Convenant. Not only that but you can find double corrupted versions for about the same price as a Convenant and now it's 4-8% better.

Convenant - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/2pwo5jik
Dendrobate single corrupt - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/K5M330gT5
Dendrobate double corrupt - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/9rkw9n0fK

wouldn't I want +2 level socketed projectile gems? I think 3 are projectile in the 6L setup. Only PC is AoE.
 

rstrohkirch

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wouldn't I want +2 level socketed projectile gems? I think 3 are projectile in the 6L setup. Only PC is AoE.

Projectile is worth 1.5% more damage than AoE for you. If you have a choice between the two at the same price then go for projectile.
 
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Homerboy

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Projectile is worth 1.5% more damage than AoE for you. If you have a choice between the two at the same price then go for projectile.

Ok bought up what I could find. Double corrupts were just too rare and too expensive.
Upgraded my boots
Tossed in Divine right too. I can NOT get the colors/links that I want for increased duration too. It's driving me mad and I spent A LOT of currency on it.

Had this drop. Seems like it might be worth something?


 

rstrohkirch

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Ok bought up what I could find. Double corrupts were just too rare and too expensive.
Upgraded my boots
Tossed in Divine right too. I can NOT get the colors/links that I want for increased duration too. It's driving me mad and I spent A LOT of currency on it.

What colors were you trying to roll on it? Also, did you try the 2+1 color on the bench? Base uptime for you without increased duration is 17.5 seconds vs 24 seconds with duration. Not sure if that helps you.

Looked over your stuff. I would probably suggest one more round of changes. That'll put you at least 4x the damage you originally started with and hopefully better defensives on top of it. The 2 big damage pieces that are missing now are 300 dex for Dendrobate increased damage and Despair. You can self cast Despair for the most damage increase which is 32% more damage (has a 31.5sec uptime at level 20). Or if you don't want to push a button you can run the Despair on hit ring which is a 18% damage increase. Let me know which one you'd prefer and I can make recommendations based on that.
 

Homerboy

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What colors were you trying to roll on it? Also, did you try the 2+1 color on the bench? Base uptime for you without increased duration is 17.5 seconds vs 24 seconds with duration. Not sure if that helps you.

Looked over your stuff. I would probably suggest one more round of changes. That'll put you at least 4x the damage you originally started with and hopefully better defensives on top of it. The 2 big damage pieces that are missing now are 300 dex for Dendrobate increased damage and Despair. You can self cast Despair for the most damage increase which is 32% more damage (has a 31.5sec uptime at level 20). Or if you don't want to push a button you can run the Despair on hit ring which is a 18% damage increase. Let me know which one you'd prefer and I can make recommendations based on that.

I got the colors I want/need but I can NOT get them linked properly. It ends up linking the green socket in EVERY time and I don't want Discipline on Divine Blessing. It was just frustrating. I wasted A LOT of fusings on it.

I actually ran a despair hit ring earlier (hence the 2 curse anoint). In fact I might still have the ring in my stash. I will have to look.

Are those boots I pasted worth anything? Can't find anything on trade remotely similar
 

rstrohkirch

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Here are the things that I would try and change:

- Get Despair on hit
- Hit 300 Dex
- Hit 155 Str to get lvl 20 Determination since you're losing a lot of phy damage reduction from not being there
- Move a couple of points around to get near 100% spell suppression
- Think about moving from Master Surgeon to Natures Boon?

Items to make changes:

- Swap boot craft to lighting + Cold resist and hit 19-20
- Buy one of these amulets and hit with 20 intrinsic catalyst. It will get you 155 strength and 300 dex. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/vg6KQe9iE
- On the above amulet I put +1 all chaos or 23%+ dot multi. The dot multi is 7% more damage so pick one of those if you can afford it.
- Curse on hit ring with life and enough fire resist to cap you. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/8rwa6B8hV

At this point you now have 23% to 30% more damage and you have enough strength to cap Determination which is worth another 18% phy damage reduction.

- Take out extra point in the Revenge of the Hunted cluster and the Circling Oblivion medium jewel to get Entrench cluster to almost cap out spell suppression
- Move from Master Surgeon to Nature's Boon ascendancy node
- Swap out Dizzying Divine life flask for a Sulphur flask with immunity to corrupted blood on it
- Swap out Rumi's for a Granite flask with at least 50% increased armour effect ( with a capped out determination it's better than Rumi's now)

The above will get you a more useful ascendancy node which will help keep all flasks up longer, nearly cap your spell suppression and better defense/damage because of the flask changes.
 

Homerboy

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Here are the things that I would try and change:

- Get Despair on hit
- Hit 300 Dex
- Hit 155 Str to get lvl 20 Determination since you're losing a lot of phy damage reduction from not being there
- Move a couple of points around to get near 100% spell suppression
- Think about moving from Master Surgeon to Natures Boon?

Items to make changes:

- Swap boot craft to lighting + Cold resist and hit 19-20
- Buy one of these amulets and hit with 20 intrinsic catalyst. It will get you 155 strength and 300 dex. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/vg6KQe9iE
- On the above amulet I put +1 all chaos or 23%+ dot multi. The dot multi is 7% more damage so pick one of those if you can afford it.
- Curse on hit ring with life and enough fire resist to cap you. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Sanctum/8rwa6B8hV

At this point you now have 23% to 30% more damage and you have enough strength to cap Determination which is worth another 18% phy damage reduction.

- Take out extra point in the Revenge of the Hunted cluster and the Circling Oblivion medium jewel to get Entrench cluster to almost cap out spell suppression
- Move from Master Surgeon to Nature's Boon ascendancy node
- Swap out Dizzying Divine life flask for a Sulphur flask with immunity to corrupted blood on it
- Swap out Rumi's for a Granite flask with at least 50% increased armour effect ( with a capped out determination it's better than Rumi's now)

The above will get you a more useful ascendancy node which will help keep all flasks up longer, nearly cap your spell suppression and better defense/damage because of the flask changes.

Ok bought the items and equipped. Needs some more catalysts to max strength.
Points moved around as well.

Did not switch to Nature's Boon yet. I'm afraid of losing the 6% life when flask used. We'll see.
 
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rstrohkirch

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Ok bought the items and equipped. Needs some more catalysts to max strength.
Points moved around as well.

Did not switch to Nature's Boon yet. I'm afraid of losing the 6% life when flask used. We'll see.

Sorry, the Circling Oblivion cluster I was referring to was the 5 passive one. You can take the extra passive out of that one and get your jewel slot back in the 4 passive cluster. Overall though, how does it feel now compared to when you started?
 

Homerboy

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Sorry, the Circling Oblivion cluster I was referring to was the 5 passive one. You can take the extra passive out of that one and get your jewel slot back in the 4 passive cluster. Overall though, how does it feel now compared to when you started?

Gotcha.

It's definitely way more powerful. Just obliterates mobs - even rares. Definitely handles bosses well too. I'm still dying but that's mainly becuase I suck at actually playing the game.

Still have to get some intrinsics and get those colors/links right to add longer duration on divine blessing
 

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So last league I ended with an elementalist explosive arrow build, this league after a starter build of cold DOT I am doing a champ EA build (https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Illuminance_DY/characters). I have 15divine to work with, I know a polaric ring is an auto/must buy and I've heard a devouring helm, to move auras to and swap lifetap out of my EA links for an empowered gem (just purchased last night to level up in off hand) was also suggested.

Any other input on my current gem/passive set up? My 6 link is just kinda what was left so I made the most of available sockets to supplement the skills in there. I kinda carried over same thought process for build from my elementalist to champ but is the lightning spire trap + combustion support worth it for the 4L it takes up?
 

Homerboy

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@rstrohkirch - say I struck it rich and landed 10D+ (9 in one map). What more can we squeeze out of this build? I was looking at PC AoE enchanted helms Found a nice one for 7D that was corrupted with 4% life.
 
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